Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

by slimboyfat 135 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • St George of England
    St George of England
    I'm sure I heard that a high up in watchtower land described the gb as 'a concept' to some authority not too long ago - just can't recall the exact details, can you?

    I thought that was Geoff Jackson at the Australia RC investigation into Child Sex Abuse.

    George


  • FreeTheMasons
  • KerryKing
    KerryKing

    Freethemasons it's not in that transcript but that's because it wasn't Jackson who changed the interpretation of the faithful slave, it was the lawyer representing the WT who said that, incidentally the lawyer was a woman.

    The transcript is a very interesting read all the same! I particularly like the part where Jackson is squirming about them not having say in members families and the lawyer says, but you consider your organisation one big family?

    Indeed, so their 'Brother and Sister' are just titles given to baptised JWs, not real heartfelt claims of familial love anf sense of belonging.

  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons

    Hi, @KerryKing🙂

    Yes, I noticed yesterday when I did a "FindOnPage" search, the word "concept" only came up once in that transcript.

    ...But there was some interesting stuff Jackson said if you type in "144,000" instead...


  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    Jackson is such a weasel in those transcripts. So much for being brave in the face of persecution. JWs in Malawi held fast through literal beatings and torture. This guy shrinks in his chair when asked a question.

    They "hope to [...] be [Jesus's] disciples"? It's "presumptuous" to think they're god's only mouthpiece? Pathetic.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    TonusOH:

    They always exclaim ""putting up a hard fight for the 'truth' ""

    Something like that.

  • KerryKing
    KerryKing

    What I found particularly odd was how a few times Jackson actually states about himself that he's humble. Who on earth says that about themselves?!

    You always know straight away that when someone says, 'I'm serious!' or 'I'm not lying!' that's exactly the opposite of what they are.

  • FreeTheMasons
    FreeTheMasons

    Line 32: "Governing Body today looks to Jehovah"

    Lines 12-14: "The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is made up of brothers who are anointed servants of Jehovah God."

    @KerryKing, your assessment regarding liars is accurate...
    You always know straight away that when someone says, 'I'm serious!' or 'I'm not lying!' that's exactly the opposite of what they are.

    The GB are false witnesses. "A false witness lies with every breath."

    The "fixed" version of those lines would be...

    Line 32: "Governing Body today looks to Satan"

    Lines 12-14: "The Governing Body of Satan's minions is made up of competitive men who are indoctrinated servants of the Devil."

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Money and the calendar cause them to change doctrine.

    I think this one comes into the calendar issue. But I heard that rumor this year about an overall plan to totally change things up in some number of years and they seem to be ramping it up to just a couple years.

    With "overlapping generation" and so many other changes, it makes sense to get ahead of this soon. We are 110 years out from 1914.

    When they change things so much and very few members leave, they must get a real kick out of that.

  • ukpimo
    ukpimo

    My prediction is that it will refer to the "sealed" Jewish Christians from the first and second centuries, including some gentiles, as it appears to indicate resurrection. Whereas the Great Crowd is depicted in terms of survival, coming out of a great tribulation, which would involve anyone confessing faith in Christ whose destiny is Paradise on earth.

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