Texas Windshield Murder Trial Begins

by TresHappy 186 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Realist
    Realist
    that is obvious from your comments

    bullshit! your primitve and simplistic approach is at best laughable. to constantly accuse me of having no feelings for the victims is rediculous. it is your agressive solution to the problem and the thereby created spirit in the society that causes new victims. law and order bum bum bum. look at the crime statistics of europe and the US. doesn't look to me as if your scare tactics work particularly well.

    if you would follow the debate of experts you would know that crime, especially child abuse, serial murders, rape and murder in general cannot be prevented by draconic punishments.

    and if you would read my posts instead of pointlessly accusing me of being heartless than you would know that i do NOT advocate that dangerous individuals should be released back into society!

  • Xena
    Xena

    your liberal and simplistic view is laughable in my opinion.

    you are the one who said you didn't put a price on human life, I just agreed with you, why get your knickers in a bunch?

    I think the continuation of this is pointless as I doubt very seriously it is something we will ever agree on.

  • Realist
    Realist
    I think the continuation of this is pointless as I doubt very seriously it is something we will ever agree on.

    agreed

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM
    humanist

    It is a "dicipline fo psychology." Also, I love how you do not address what I said about evil but chose to only take one part of the sentence.

    by the way...did she state the man was still alive when she arrived at the garage? if not how does one know the man was still alive at the time? is that simply your assumption or is this a fact?

    Yes, I really hate when someone makes a judment on a case without knowing what is said at the trial. So you have no idea what happened except by what the media said right, you didn't watch the trial. As a "scientist" you would be kicked to the curb, if you did this in your lab. How can one debate what one has NO idea about. You didn't watch her demenour, you did not listen to what she said.

  • Realist
    Realist

    sheila,

    It is a "dicipline fo psychology." Also, I love how you do not address what I said about evil but chose to only take one part of the sentence.

    humanism is foremost a philosophical ideology developed in the renaissance with various ideas up to this day. i agree with several humanistic ideals but view some ideas as too unscientific. thats why i asked how you define a humanist.

    you are talking about humanistic psychology, quite a different thing.

    i am sure a holisitc treatment is good for the patient and might gain better results than a purely scientific approach BUT humanisitc psychology does not attempt to understand the underlying (neuronal) causes. therefore it is really only a method for treatment and not of much scientific value.

    Also, I love how you do not address what I said about evil but chose to only take one part of the sentence.

    since you edited quite a bit i am not sure what you mean but i assume you refer to this paragraph:

    Funny my psych teacher did her entire graduate degree in a ward with schizophrenics. Even she knows there is a difference between a psychological condition and evil. Yes, the brain is a complex, and wonderous organ. But there is more to the brain them even science or psychiatrists know. There are many, many questions. You can make the excuse of illness all you want. But there are those that there is no brain injury or difference in the brain but they are killers.

    ok maybe we should get to the bottom of what causes us to make decisions. it is action potentials fired by certain neurons. is there a spirit telling the neuronal networks which neurons should fire? obviously not. it is a extremely complex network which itegrates external as well as internal imputs. change external imputs or internal imputs (over or underexpression of neurotransmitters, hormones etc.) and you will get changes in behavior.

    in "normal" people the networks work in a way that allows such individuals to function properly in society. in a criminal mind something is not working "correctly". it does not have to be a macroscopic damage to the brain or an easily observable neuronal disease. it is sufficient to have altered neuronal communications. missing neurons, too active or too inactive neurons in one region, too much adrenalin, not enough endorphines or whatever.

    the brain is indeed highly complex and not all interactions are understood but one thing is clear ....there is no such thing as evil. it is a biochemical, neuronal imbalance (or abnormailty) in the neuronal networks that causes individuals to do harmful things to others.

    Yes, I really hate when someone makes a judment on a case without knowing what is said at the trial. So you have no idea what happened except by what the media said right, you didn't watch the trial. As a "scientist" you would be kicked to the curb, if you did this in your lab. How can one debate what one has NO idea about. You didn't watch her demenour, you did not listen to what she said.

    LOL i like how you tell me what "scientists" do and don't do! actually scientists develop theories based on available data and logic. my only available data stems from the media so excuse me! also did i or didn't i asked about the trial in order to get a better understanding?

    besides that...the point remains that capital punishment (as demanded by many here) is not a civilized answer to any crime. and our discussion did hardly border on this specific trial but was directed on general aspects.

  • MegaDude
    MegaDude

    Philosophical liberals that pontificate about the rights of criminals and how they should be coddled always change their minds when they or someone they love is the victim of a heinous crime. Then they began howling for harsh justice faster than Linda Blair's head turned around in The Exorcist.

  • Realist
    Realist

    megadude,

    i stated exactly that in a previous post.

    of course if one is a victim of a crime one wants revenge. this is an irrational emotion and the state should NOT follow this course. the state has to act logical and based on scientific evaluations. NOT just to protect the offender but to protect society in general from becoming desensitized and radical.

  • TresHappy
    TresHappy

    This Chante Mallard was/is a druggie. It's too bad someone had to die before she could get help for her drug problem. Now us taxpayers will have to feed, clothe and provide education for her. She'll be able to get a college degree, work in the prison (probably CNA work in the infirmary). When she's not working, she'll be getting that college education, being medicated for her depression, and getting counseling for her drug habit. At the end of her 25 year stint, she'll be eligible for parole. Eligible...that's a joke. She'll probably serve most of her sentence. If that's so, she'll be an elderly woman before she sees freedom. I

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    Realist: First your a friggin LIAR saying I "edited" quite a bit. What a loser you are.

    Also humanist psychology developed after FREUD you ass and is not holistic but instead involves the patient in the discussion of their therapy and it's the bsis of WHAT most psychiatrists and psychologists use today.

    YOU are a blow-hard you can't substantiate your ideas so you speak as if you know what the hell your talking about.

    I am done with you HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF EDITING MY POSTS YOU SUCK the only time I edit is to correct spelling errors. As I SAID YOU SUCK

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    Oh by the way you friggin LIAR I did 10 posts and EDITED ONE to correct formatting YOU are a LIAR and I don't discuss anything with a liar blow-hard

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