Rayzorblade- Having trouble with my browser replying to your PM - Your message is well taken and understood. For some people it is a long journey, and then there are family members to think about as well. So, in that regard, as well as some of the things I have seen, I understand where you are coming from. Wishing you a blessed and joyous day. lawrence
Were You Ever Put On Restrictions?
by minimus 64 Replies latest jw friends
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Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice.
Yes, but I was not alone - many, many thousands had to endure the same restrictions that cheeses had to live by earlier in the year. Oppressed by a severe drought, water restrictions were imposed by the local government authority, and it even reached the point where gardens could only be watered every second day by bucket. Hard work, and thank
thegoodlorda change of weather patterns, that it was eventually lifted due to sufficient falls of rain to replenish the water supply.cheeses - who hopes that was what mini meant.
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minimus
ahhh Cheeses, You are speaking here in coded spiritual terms...I see exactly what you mean. I understand what the "bucket" means and realize that you have more than water in it.
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Austrian
I'm with Wildhorses, I loved restrictions. They restricted me from commenting and also being in the TMS. When they tell you it like they are taking some great thing away from you. Ofcoarse you always act like it hurts
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minimus
As an elder, I always questioned how we were punishing a brother when we told him that he was not exemplary and therefore couldn't read the Watchtower at the WT. Study but could still "do the microphones". Or tell a brother that if he wore certain prints on his ties that some considered outlandish, he would not be able to continue mowing the lawn.
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JH
Did you feel that being placed on restrictions was a form of "loving" discipline?
No, It felt like controling discipline. No love there.
They put lots of emphasis on being exemplary, like little robots all alike.
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blondie
As an elder, I always questioned how we were punishing a brother when we told him that he was not exemplary and therefore couldn't read the Watchtower at the WT. Study but could still "do the microphones". Or tell a brother that if he wore certain prints on his ties that some considered outlandish, he would not be able to continue mowing the lawn.
My husband could never understand it. Then in the next congregation they would let a brother who had done the same things have privileges. Sounds like the HS was telling different things to different elders. I agree that the only time field service privileges are withheld is when you are DF'd or have DA'd yourself. I know of DF'd people who have continued door to door. There is something in writing even saying that their time would not be counted, so it must happen elsewhere. I never missed my "privileges." Women have so few anyway. My restrictions were lifted without anyone telling me. I just showed up on the school one day. Was I surprised when my name was announced. Blondie
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minimus
What's worse is that there are AUTOMATIC restrictions placed upon anyone that recieved judicial action. If you were suicidal and you tried to kill yourself 3 times, you could get charged with not appreciating "The sanctity of life". If you obviously, simply needed help through medical or mental means, that would not stop a committee of men from saying that even though they think you're truly sorry, you still would no longer have the "privilege" of commenting at meetings or being in the School. This is CRAZY. Yet, restrictions are used to CONTROL. Even if the person who was suicidal would get obviously depressed over having further punishment inflicted upon them, it wouldn't matter. To the elders, they would feel that if this person still wanted to kill himself, then, they MUST not be repentant after all.
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GermanXJW
I know of DF'd people who have continued door to door.
I know of a DF'd who would not be given any magazines because he used to do street witnessing.
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unbeliever
Yes. I could not give talks or go in FS. I was still allowed to comment. The reasons were a worldly BF, lying, and drinking beer. I was not repentent. Why would the idiots still allow me to comment not that I ever did? Four months after I lost my "privileges" they said I could have them back. I turned them down.
Before the above incident I was not allowed to comment for a few months because I cussed all the time. I could still give talks and go out in FS. Again why would they allow me to go in FS and give talks but not comment? I wished they took ALL the "privileges" away.