Most of you are just pitiful whiners. !! (page 9)

expatbrit

Most of YOU are pitiful whiners

I had a householder say a very similar thing to me once after he had read the Watchtower and Awake magazines.

Expatbrit

badolputtytat

walks off and sticks his finger down his throat .......bleh.............. if you wont use the "x" then I will.

Lovely people here though. You are all wonderful. and I hope you continue to share your pain with each other. I have seen through personal e-mails, a lot of growing and healing. I have learned alot from reading these threads. Simon has done something good here, and I appreciate it nonetheless.

ESTEE

William Penwell

Why do we blame others for our situations? Why do we complain about others? Because we are not happy with our own life and want to blame someone else for all out problems. It is due to codependent personalities that seek others to blame and not take responsibilities for ourselves. To empower ourselves.

What is codependency you may ask?? I have found some good explanations on line.

Definitions of Codependency

Rodelle Lerner

An Addition to a person and that person's problem. An addiction to a relationship and the problems the relationship brings. It is a pattern of learned behaviors, learned feelings, and learned beliefs that make life painful. It is a dependency on people and things outside of self to the point of self neglect.

Robert Subby, MA

An emotional, psychological, and behavioral condition that develops as a result of an individual's prolonged exposure to, and practice of, a set of oppressive rules, rules which prevent the open expression of feelings, as well as the direct discussion of personal and impersonal problems.

Cathleen Clements, MS, CCDP/Barbara Bofenkamp, MS, CCDP

One whose dependency needs were not met during early developmental stages, who is continually seeking validation of self worth, and who attempts to recreate the parent/child relationships in other significant relationships.

Sondra Smally, PHD, CCDP

A term used to describe an exaggerated dependent pattern of learned behaviors, beliefs, and feelings that make life painful. It is a dependence on people and things outside the self, along with neglect of the person to the point of having little self identity.

Sharon Wedscheider Cruse, MSW

A specific condition that is characterized by preoccupation and extreme dependence (emotionally, socially, and sometimes physically), on a person or object. Eventually, this dependence on another person becomes a pathological condition that affects the codependent in all other relationships.

For more info, http://epinions.henderco.com/cod/codep2.htm

Mr. Kim

For the number of JWs still going strong the ones here is but a handful, so mabye most of you are just pitiful whiners who should accept a little personal responsibility for your lives and quit trying so hard to BLAME someone or something.
So now you know ...
northern girl.

My response is: BITE ME! -- NICELY OF COURSE.

Mr. KIM

berylblue

The trouble with posting as you just have ... there is a permanent record of your poor taste

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IRONY ALERT

onacruse

northern girl, after due consideration, I've temporarily suspended your ability to post on this db.

Please contact me, Simon, or any other moderator if you wish to have my decision re-considered.

After all, I am only one person.

Craig

William Penwell

Craig,

Respectfully, If I be so bold to ask, but why have you suspended northern girl's ability to post here? Is it due to profane language or something else we are unaware of? I mean I don't see eye to eye with her as you can read my posts but I think everyone should have a right to their own opinion. "I may disagree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it." That is one reason why most of us left dubs, the lack of freedom of thought. Anyway just asking.

Will

onacruse

WillP, thanks for asking!

I made a decision, based on what I consider to be valid reasons. I may very well be wrong, and if I am, I'll be more than glad to step up to the plate and apologize to northern girl.

It will never be my intention to harm others, including ng...just to prevent others from being harmed.

Sincerely,

Craig

badolputtytat

With all due respect to Will P. I do not believe that everyone is entitled to say just whatever is on their mind.... yes opinions... but some of the statements made by this person in the past and recently, have gone beyond "opinion" and reached a point of just being mean. Insults are not opinions.

If it is the opinion of a person the "we" or someone on this board blames too much of their problems on this cult, and is expressed in an adult manner then I would be open to listening to it. Perhaps some like me, have blamed a little extra something on the cult... perhaps not.

My concern is for the ones (whom I have personal contact with) who face some serious issues with this thing... may take those comments and not seek the help they need. Maybe for some of the long-time posters here, we have grown beyond those fears and doubts that sink deeply into ones self after leaving this organisation. But for the newer ones ... they still have that fresh fear in them. Face really tough decisions. Come here, and read all the support and love and hope get some real input. . . and then they get this: "aw your just a bunch of whiners"....

Just my opinion... and you are welcome to crush it... but I think, some people would be better off in one of those Yahoo chat rooms instead of here. Perhaps it is ok to admit that this board is NOT jw positive and those who come here spouting off about how we are all apostates and whiners... would be happier posting elsewhere. Yes yes... we all have those off topic, humorous things to post... it is called friendship.... everything doesn't have to be serious. I am bad about it myself ... just popping into a thread, inserting some rather strange comment, and a smiley face.... but I mean no HARM by it.

Until I read the post from onacruise I had decided not to post further. I just get too easily offended by those who would say HARMFUL things to anyone who posts on this board. Good people here.

I realize this is not a democracy... Simon has the final say.... but Onacruise... you have my vote of support on this decision. (as meaningless as it is) Regaurdless... I will continue to read what everyone has to say... most of you are wonderful people, with some interesting input.

Most of you are just pitiful whiners. !!