Wanna see me stick my foot in my mouth? Its a question for you women,

by William Penwell 78 Replies latest jw friends

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    SYN

    Another thing that's important to remember is that a lot of women (not all of them!) enjoy guys who are confident. You should be able to say NO, and mean it. You should have the cajones to go up to a lady and say, "Hi, my name's Will, what's your name?" at least! I just find that it's much more effective than wooing women online. You can tell so much more about someone face-to-face than online...you don't have to be a bastard to get laid. Show women that you're sensitive, but also that you're firm. Have conviction when you say things.

    I agree, I have learned my lesson on the on line dating thing. I mean that maybe a way to initially meet but you have to meet in face to face if you want to get serious. You can be friends but you really don't know if you are going to click till you see them in person. Like the lesson I learned after putting in hours of conversing on the phone, when you meet in person they could take one look at you and walk away.

    Again though I have to repeat myself, I get tired of trying to guess where their heads are at sometimes. They will tell you one thing and do something else.. Then it's your fault for misunderstanding their intentions.

    Like the that old movie said,

    I AM MAD AS HELL AND I AN''T GOING TO TAKE IT NO MORE... LOL

    Will

  • Mecurious?
    Mecurious?

    Again though I have to repeat myself, I get tired of trying to guess where their heads are at sometimes. They will tell you one thing and do something else.. Then it's your fault for misunderstanding their intentions.

    Alas it is... I promised not to keep you hanging so now I will speak. First of all you obviously keep making the same fatal mistakes. If you touch a hot stove over and over and keep getting “burnt” then who’s fault is that? Will you blame that on women too? Maybe it’s the stove maker’s fault or perhaps it everyone’s fault except yours.

    I know this sounds harsh, but I have to tell it like it is. Take responsibility for your own actions. The common denominator is you!

    Now, since we got that out of the way, lets examine some of the fatal mistakes nice (read insecure) guys make. Here’s an article from heartless bitches dot com:

    http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys.shtml

    And heres another one from sosuave dot com on self respect:

    Respect has been defined as "a healthy appreciation of an individual and their talents" and also as "an adoration and acceptance by peers for prestige, a specific attitude, skill or hobby."

    Gentlemen, you must first respect yourself, your personal space, your time, and your own interests before you can honestly show appreciation for anyone else's. This is basic self-care, like brushing your hair in the morning. If you believe that other people's time, space, belongings, and feelings are more important to you than your own, then you are not respecting yourself. I understand that it is polite to be considerate of other people's feelings and property, but when you neglect your own in the process, you are dealing with a big problem. Many men who are not successful with women tend to worship the ground that those women walk on and insist on seeing the world through their eyes, while ignoring what they themselves see.

    Melissa says that I should stop eating meat. Tracy wants me to start coming home at 9 pm because she does not like me out at night. I stopped collecting trains as a hobby because my girlfriend thinks that it is childish and we are going to sell them all tomorrow on E-Bay. I would love to go out with you guys but my girlfriend won't let me.

    Be strong!

    I am not telling you to be a brute or insensitive but, gentlemen, I remind you that YOU run your life and every decision that you make you ultimately will have to deal with... alone. So as long as it is not illegal, dangerous, or deals with animal mutilation, your girlfriend should not be giving you advice, demands, or ultimatums on what you should be doing. She is not respecting your personal space and your freedom to choose even if she thinks it is idiotic. Just because she does not like what you are doing does not mean that YOU do not have to like it. You like to do what you like to do. When you stop respecting yourself in order to please a girlfriend, wife, fiance etc... she loses respect for you also, and stops "asking" you to do things and starts "telling" you what you are going to do, wear, eat, etc.

    The average woman is disgusted by this, and if you have this type of mindset then you need to change it because it is FEMININE. Most women expect their man to take charge, make decisions, and gently correct her when she steps out of place. He is the man, that has been his job for the past 250 million years.

    If your man muscle is like jell-o, you might as well accept that you are "bottom of the barrel" because only a female with serious emotional problems or a really crappy reputation will be attracted to you. If that is what you like... to each his own. As for the rest of us we are learning how to take control of our lives and our destinies and be the men that we have always wanted to be.

    Now society has had a big part in destroying the modern man. Women have been saying for years that they want a man that has more feminine characteristics than male characteristics. I believe that well-meaning women took what they wanted a little bit of and made a whole man out of it.

    By talking to women that I know, and interviewing men who are more sensitive than tough, I have come to one conclusion: Women like tough guys with a balance of human emotions. If you slice your hand open and are bleeding to death, and she is laughing at how much of a wuss that you look like... kick her to the curb. A woman who really cared about you would be too busy panicking and frantically trying to stop the bleeding instead of laughing at you losing your cool.

    Now if you are afraid of something that can't kill you, make you lose your job, or do great bodily harm to you, then it is best if you don't publicize it. But if your girlfriend gets a promotion, celebrate. If she loses her job, then mope around with her for a little while. If she says something rude to you, let her know on no uncertain terms that she better watch her mouth or she won't have a boyfriend. All while doing it in a cool, non-emotional way.

    Don't be her therapist or girlfriend, but listen and nod a lot. Most of the time she already knows what she wants to do but just wants someone to listen so she can get it off of her chest. You can be her anchor and not even have to do much.

    See there you have it. Try a little less blame and more selfrespect, personal responsibility, and confidence.

    Good luck

    Merc'

  • Stacy Smith
    Stacy Smith
    Any woman that looks down on me can kiss my butt.

    A kinky guy, you'll find one just right for you

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    Hi Mecurious,

    Thanks for the post and the link. I read it over and there is some good information. Believe it or not I have put a lot of those tips to practice. 10 years ago I was a real push over but have learned to be more assertive after leaving the borg. Still there is some things I have to work on. I have learned to love myself first and do things to make myself happy. I am a nice person to a degree but some people have found out I will take so much and then watch it. I am referring here more on the business relationship. Without boring you on a lot of details, there is one fellow just last year that wishes he didn't take advantage of my kindness.

    Anyway to kind of sum up my point to this thread,

    A) A great number of woman and it could be men are hypocrites. They say they want the "nice" person but what they are really looking for is the one that can put on the best show. So to me it boils down to the guy or girl that is the better actor or BSer that is going to get ahead. A fact of life, not a good one but a fact.

    B) Then when a person gets stuck with a loser type, I say don't come a crying to me because you fell for the scam and got what you deserved. I hear it all the time about how awful my ex was blah blah blah. I just think they got what they asked for so don't complain to me.

    Will

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    I just think they got what they asked for so don't complain to me.

    But, Will, what if they married a liar? Somebody who misrepresented themselves before the marriage? Everybody wants to give their mate the benefit of the doubt. Nobody likes to admit that they married a mistake. Even if couples live together for years before marriage, you can always count on a surprise or two from your mate after the wedding.

    I do agree that people shouldn't complain about their mates although I have been guilty too. Sometimes people need to vent to make sure, in their minds, that they are indeed being mistreated and are not being overly sensitive. Sometimes they also need a trusted friend's opinion while they are making up their minds to leave.

    So, while I agree that most people do indeed get what they ask for or at least what they will put up with, many people are also in different phases of growth and are not strong enough to leave until they are strong enough to leave.

    Robyn

  • Stacy Smith
    Stacy Smith

    Hi Rob, I hear Mars is going to be out tonight, you going out with your astronomer to see if anything pops up????????

    I think most people over analyze things. Maybe it's because I'm young but I'm glad I haven't had to stress so much about relationships.

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    Robyn,

    If you ever met me you may not like me but at least you will know this is who I am. I think that is why I find it so hard because I don't put on an act. Try to be myself with everyone. It is sad when some get stuck with these type of people that only put on an act then abuse them after they are married.

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  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Hi Rob, I hear Mars is going to be out tonight, you going out with your astronomer to see if anything pops up????????

    Stacey, "my astronomer" (but really, he doesn't belong to me, ya know) has taken his kids to St. Louis to visit with their grandmother over the weekend. If anything "pops up" he will have to deal with it on his own.

    Thanks for asking though. How's your holiday weekend going?

    Rob

  • Stacy Smith
    Stacy Smith

    I am doing nothing right now Rob. My bags are packed and I'm going to Tahoe in the morning with some friends. We have a house to stay in so the trip is on the cheap. I could have left already but a couple of friends work at the mall and don't get off until 9. There was some talk about running around tonight but I'm worn out and I think I'd have more fun up there if I get some sleep, or caught up on sleep anyway.

    What are your plans Rob? Anything fun planned?

  • bikerchic
    bikerchic

    Will I was cleaning out my email and ran across this story I thought about this thread and figured what the heck, I hope you enjoy the read.

    Subject: An intersting tale-

    Young King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of a
    neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him,
    but was moved by Arthur's youth and ideals.
    So the monarch
    offered him freedom, as long as he could answer
    a very difficult question.
    Arthur would have a
    year to figure out the answer; if, after a year,
    he still had no answer, he would be put to death.

    The question: What do women really want?
    Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man,
    and, to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query.
    But, since it was better than death, he accepted
    the monarch's proposition to have an answer by year's end.

    He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everybody: the princess, the
    prostitutes, the priests, the wise men, the court jester. He spoke with everyone, but no one could give him
    a satisfactory answer. Many people advised him to consult the old
    witch--only she would know the answer.
    The price would be high; the witch was famous throughout the
    kingdom for the exorbitant prices she charged.

    The last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no alternative but to talk
    to the witch. She agreed to answer his question, but he'd have to accept her price first. The old witch wanted to
    marry Gawain, the most noble of the Knights of the
    Round Table and Arthur's closest friend!

    Young Arthur was horrified; she was hunchbacked and hideous, had only one
    tooth, smelled like sewage, made obscene noises... etc. He had never encountered such a repugnant creature. He
    refused to force his friend to marry her and have to endure such a burden.
    Gawain, upon learning of the proposal, spoke with Arthur. He told him that
    nothing was too big a sacrifice compared to Arthur's life and the preservation of the Round Table. Hence,
    their wedding was proclaimed, and
    the witch answered Arthur's question thus:

    What a woman really wants is to be in charge of her own life.

    Everyone instantly knew that the witch had uttered a great truth and that
    Arthur's life would be spared. And so it was. The neighboring monarch granted Arthur total freedom.

    What a wedding Gawain and the witch had! Arthur was torn
    between relief and anguish.
    Gawain was proper as always, gentle and courteous. The old witch put her worst manners on display, and generally made everyone very uncomfortable. The hour approached. Gawain,
    steeling himself for a horrific experience, entered the bedroom.
    But what a sight awaited him!

    The most beautiful woman he'd ever seen lay before him!
    The astounded Gawain asked what had happened.
    The beauty replied that since he had been so kind
    to her when she'd appeared as a witch, she would henceforth
    be her horrible, deformed self half the time, and the other half,
    she would be her beautiful maiden self.
    Which would he want her to be during the day, and
    which during the night?

    What a cruel question! Gawain pondered his predicament. During the day, a
    beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night,
    in the privacy of his home, an old witch?
    Or would he prefer having by day a hideous witch, but by night a
    beautiful woman with whom to enjoy many intimate moments?
    What would you do?
    What Gawain chose follows below,
    but don't read until you've made your own choice...

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    Noble Gawain replied that he would let her choose for herself. Upon hearing
    this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time, because he had
    respected her enough to let her be in charge of her own life.
    What is the moral of this story?


    The moral is: if your woman doesn't get her own way,
    things are going to get ugly!

    KateVisit Smiley Central!

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