Who told the first lie? (page 29)

KalebOutWest

MeanMrMustard

Doesn't matter. Pick one.

nicolaou

Stop being such a smug drama queen.

The truth is you folks are still acting the same way the Jehovah's Witnesses do. You demand I think like you and when I don't you demonize me.

You haven't moved past the Watchtower religion's practices that you criticize. You only do that when it's convenient.

I don't have to choose or think like you or do anything you want.

You are not satisfied with anything. If I say you're right, according to you "I'm a drama queen." If I give an intellectual answer "I'm showing off." If you ask how I know something and demand that I explain myself, and I tell you I am an academic, you claim I am only mentioning going to college so I can "elevate myself above others and make myself sound important."

Except Jeffro, who just checks on mistakes, and we've had a rocky history--it seems others just want me to choose. Jeffro has turned out to be the most sensible on here.

The rest of you--screw you. I don't follow you. You all are nuts.

And wrong.

MeanMrMustard

The truth is you folks are still acting the same way the Jehovah's Witnesses do. You demand I think like you and when I don't you demonize me.

No. Don't conflate 'holding the same opinion' with 'being logically coherent'. If you say God did not lie because He does not exist, it's a non argument when people are discussing the story as fiction. It's like saying the wolf didn't huff and puff and blow the little piggies house in because that story is fiction.

You haven't moved past the Watchtower religion's practices that you criticize. You only do that when it's convenient.

I'm an atheist. I think I've moved past the WT pretty well.

KalebOutWest

MMM

I'm an atheist. I think I've moved past the WT pretty well.

Remember this comment where you demanded:

Doesn't matter. Pick one.

I don't have to do what you say. This is not the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses. You aren't the Governing Body. Your words are not law.

Just because you’re an atheist doesn't mean you have moved on.

It's like a Jehovah's Witness claiming:

"I'm Roman Catholic. I'm not dealing with CSA in my religion anymore."

Yeah, right!

Call yourself an apple tree. You still produce Watchtower magazines.

KalebOutWest

MMM sounds like a Watchtower magazine, and everyone else demanding me to pick a side.

It comes from ingrained cult thinking:

Now is not the time to sit on the fence or be lukewarm. Jesus stated
very clearly: “He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters.” He also said: “Whoever becomes ashamed of me and of my words, the Son of man will be ashamed of this one when he arrives in his glory and that of the Father and of the holy angels.”—Mt 12:30; Lu 9:26.

--Watchtower April 1, 1991, pp 8-13

I can sit on a fence and keep an opinion to myself or don't have to decide.

I am my own person.

MeanMrMustard

Lol. Wtf

I said "pick one" because you were drawing distinctions between a literal God and a story about a fictional God. I said it doesn't matter - you pick. You. No forcing anything. If you pick a literal God, and this is a story about a literal God, he lied. If it's a story, then the fictional God lied in the story.

Lol

In fact, all my previous posts were playing along - as cheeky as they were - saying that it looks like God told a "white lie" because it was the only way to get Adam to behave (since he had no moral compass). Just like your mother telling you not to masterbate because you'll go blind.

KalebOutWest

MMM,

You also flip-flop like the Governing Body:

"We never said anything about 1975...It was unfaithful people in our midst who came up with that."

Everything you're doing is just another JW trick from their old worn out hat.

Whatever.

MeanMrMustard

I can sit on a fence and keep an opinion to myself or don't have to decide.

I am my own person.

Sure, but if you try and draw a square circle, and someone says - " Hey, you kinda can't do that...it's impossible" and you snap back that you are your own person, and you can sit in the fence between a square and circle..... well ... then I'll lol. Ok

Who told the first lie?

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