...of course, there is a lot of truth in my "little polemic"....right?
B.
The absolute stupidity of Christianity
by logansrun 83 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Gretchen956
I'll use the golden rule for an example. It seems logical to me to treat people the way you want to be treated.
The "golden rule" was around long before the Bible was written. And Christians don't have the market on the precept, either, they just claim to. In my form of spirituality it goes like this: An it harm non, do what you will. We believe that whatever you do comes back at you threefold. You know, another totally illogical belief system (karma, etc.) but hey, it works for me.
I say each to their own path. And those with no path? I have a friend who hypothesizes that we are all here on some vast psychology experiement (think mice in a lab) and the higher powers are up there laughing their a$$es off at how stupid we all are. That may be a little cynical, but it could be as true as anything else! LOL
Gretchen
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JamesThomas
You will get no argument out of me, Bradley. I am no fan of any organized religion. In fact I feel they are the main reason for mans inhumanity to man.
Perhaps I'm just mellowing a little.
j
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logansrun
I think every now and then, just to keep the embers warm, one must spout off a polemic like that. I call it therapy.
B.
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DanTheMan
What then? The ubermensch.
Nietzsche forgot about the "worm at the core" of existence, death. I think this is where his ideas fall flat. Life is strange and tragic, and that there is no getting "over" that. Christianity is an effective death-denial mechanism, you take that away from people and they create another immortality idol to cling to, like the Nazis with their silly grandiose ideas about race and a "1000-year Reich".
I wish that more Christians spent more time concentrating on reading the gospels instead of Jeremiah, Paul, Genesis, "Left Behind" books, Watchtower literature, or listening to power-hungry preachers.
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Satanus
Dan
The nazis were mostly christian. In fact hitler banned the old testement (that was one of the things that concerned the catholic church), but he liked the new testement. The esotericism was mainly at the top.
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JamesThomas
I understand, Brad. I express my opinion about Christianity pretty strongly sometimes myself. Afterwards I notice an uncomfortable feeling within. Deeper wisdom often speaks wordlessly within us. Wisdom and guidance that should not be ignored.
Some of my words have hurt people, and turned them away from listening to anything I may have to say.
There is a kinder way, a more caring way to express and share thoughts. I'm still learning.
DanTheMan, I wish Christians would read a little Quantum Physics, once in a while. It may expand their sense of God.
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patio34
I enjoyed your post Bradley.
I heard Joseph Campbell being interviewed by Bill Moyers. In it he said there was a vast difference between Asian religions and Christian religion.
He said the Asian religions often believed that deity was in everyone (Buddhism, I know, believes this). Hence, they treat everyone with much respect because of the universal deity in each.
However, Christians believe that everyone is damned, wicked, and inherently sinful unless they are "saved." So, they treated (and treat) people the opposite way and are suspicious, judgmental, and wary of "unbelievers."
The former is inclusive, and the latter is exclusive. It makes a huge difference in the cultures, Campbell stated.
Pat
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Mysterious
The "golden rule" was around long before the Bible was written. And Christians don't have the market on the precept, either, they just claim to. In my form of spirituality it goes like this: An it harm non, do what you will. We believe that whatever you do comes back at you threefold. You know, another totally illogical belief system (karma, etc.) but hey, it works for me.
True, I wasn't saying the Christians had cornered the market on that principle by any means. However if you believe in that principle and it's contained in the bible you can't dismiss the whole bible without dismissing a principle that you yourself believe in. That's not to say your principles have to be biblically based by any means.
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hillary_step
Brad,
Look, most of the western world are marginal Christians??.I can live with such ones, but I cannot say I respect them.
Do you realize that you have just admitted that you do not respect most of the Western World? As Christinaity is just a religion like any other I cannot see why you single it out for particular venom, unless of course you would have to admit to disrespecting most of the world instead of just the Western World....
My issue with Christianity is that it, like most religions it has never grown up and is still trapped within an ancient world, with ancient dogmas that are ludicrous when viewed from a C21st perspective. It has shown over the centuries a powerful ability to adapt to changing social environments, unlike for example the Muslim faith, but despite this I still get the impression that we are looking at a person sitting in a Porche arguing the concept of the wheel. It can adapt easily, but fears itself.
Martin Palmer, himself incidentally a Christian, wrote a very interesting book 'Living Christianity', detailing the theological traps that Christianity had fallen into since its inception and how as a movement it has preferred to live within a philosophical prison than explore its natural direction. Well worth a read. Incidentally, the concept of Original Sin is actually not based in primitive Christianity but became a foundation of Christian theology due to St. Augustine, it was not a tenet of early Christianity. The early Christians were far more interested in building community and a waiting for an imminent apocryphal deliverence than in the concept of personal guilt. That is very much a more modern interpretation of Christian theology.
I may be wrong, but I do think that Christianity is unique in one teaching and that is to 'love your enemies', a concept that certainly would transform C21st life if adhered to. I would be interested if any researchers of earlier religions and philosphies have discovered this concept preceding the sermons given on mounts.
Best regards - HS