Watchtower Organisation - it's all over, bar the shouting

by slimboyfat 199 Replies latest members campaign

  • _Morpheus
    _Morpheus

    In the end lack of elders wont shut the org down. They will appoint less and less qualified “men” and further consolidate congregations. They will see cost savings on that as well.

    All the sky is falling talk is, as always it seems to me, premature and more hope than fact. I appreciate that slim and others on this particular thread at least gave it some thought and reasononed on it however the facts remain: the org still grows, albeit sluggishly. Born ins leave but others take their place. Yes its uneducated people or perhaps those with emotional difficulties but the org grows. They will adapt and carry on in some fashion.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    Watchtower might have to lessen up on the bar it takes to perform certain duties. And why can't women carry the microphone? Do the accounts? Handle territories?

  • konceptual99
    konceptual99

    err Ruby....

    Konceptual - tea towels? really !!!!!! women have been busy becoming trained nurses, trained IT consultants, teachers and social workers ...

    You do realise I was being sarcastic and pouring derision on the patriarchal structure of the WTS? The point I was making was that the WTS are very unlikely to address a problem with recruiting enough elders/MS by opening up the roles officially to women.

    Already, where men are already in very short supply the women get to play at being important by wearing a head covering - hence the reference to a tea towel.

    Don't forget this is an organisation where a 9 year baptised male has more scriptural authority than his mother.

  • LV101
    LV101

    Well, I certainly don't like the views re/cult will continue to chug along but reality is brutal at times. It is what it is --for now, anyway.

    The dichotomy of viewpoints is interesting.

  • Ruby456
    Ruby456

    yes I got that konceptual - but wanted to add that the UK gov has been quietly leading jw women and quite a few young male school leavers into professional life!!!

  • Tight Pants Twinkle Toes
    Tight Pants Twinkle Toes

    SBF, Have you been reading my notes?!? I whole heartily agree with your view on wtbs decline. I believe it is over for them, they are busting apart at the seams. They are not a balloon with a pinhole, but a balloon after a shotgun blast. They are in a rapid and irreversible tailspin! They are bankrupt in every category, and their collapse is coming soon!

    Hasta la vista Mother Fuckers!!!

  • sparrowdown
    sparrowdown

    Halle f***ing lujah WT is bankrupt and their collapse is coming soon.

  • Giordano
    Giordano

    There is another area of decline that has been increasing.

    Back in the early 1960's I pioneered where the need was great in NW Pennsylvania.

    Smallish congregations every 30 to 40 miles apart. Usually run by headship families either original founders of the congregation or just dominant personalities.

    Since I gave my public talk through out the circuit I got to know a lot of the JW's and their small cities and towns. One congregation had 20 members another 50 and everything in between. It took the circuit assembly to see how many of us there was.

    Now those congregations are merging, unfortunately many of the 'friends' are required to drive (no public transportation) quite a distance to attend their meetings in what probably feels like a 'borrowed' kingdom Hall. 30 or 40 miles doesn't sound like a reach but when you experience six plus months of snow covered or iced over roads 30 or 40 miles......... going up and coming down the hills can be difficult and dangerous.

    For those of us who have lived in winter climates in rural areas where the State and Townships can not always clear the roads.......... a long winter means many of the friends, especially the elderly, can not attend and support their congregation as they once did.

    The Society appears to be obvious to the danger they have put their followers in for the sake of just what I don't know. As these congregations shrink, as the elderly stay home, we will see an increasing lack of enthusiasm. A pending snow storm means one is wise to stay off the roads.

    Distance has a way of redefining one's beliefs and actions.As the local congregations dissolve......... families will stop meeting attendance in far away congregations and just about everything else that defines the JW construct.

  • Londo111
    Londo111

    Maybe they are selling whatever they can to try to keep things afloat until Armageddon.

  • Onager
    Onager

    It could be a Berlin Wall scenario. In the months and years beforehand it seemed impossible that the status quo would change and then suddenly, almost without warning, there were people sitting on the wall and smashing it with sledgehammers.

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