So you think I'm a hypocrite? (page 2)

Narkissos

To Dothemath: "Leave or stay? If you can stay, stay; leave if you have to." (Baudelaire -- my translation.)

And to others: Why not leave disfellowshipment to the WT?

Joyzabel

Glad to see you came back, dothemath.

It is a very rocky, rough road that lays ahead of you no matter what you do. And only you can traverse it.

If it is family that concerns you, take it slow. My hubby was very patient and only let a few examples every week or two come out of his mouth while he was doing his "research". What he told me made sense, but I was scared of losing everything I knew/had. So at first I reacted by doing more. (service, studying, meetings, etc, etc) But I had come to realize myself that the way the Watchtower organization really treated their people was deplorable and that bothered me.

Once I realized the whole structure of the organization was built on "climbing the ladder" and heresay (how other's viewed you) it was fruitless to keep up the charades of being a good jw family.

All I can say is that the change in our family life, our teenage son actually talks with us and enjoys our company as well as our grown kids has been well worth the heartache we faced when telling the family of our "leaving". There is no way of getting around the heartache but to just live through it. The Watchtower organization has built a nice little community that tears family apart, but it is really mind control. Any sane person would not put up with the silliness of shunning family members that is required by the Watchtower.

What I'm trying to get at is that life is more than I could have imagined when I was a JW. The freedom that we were denied is worth the heartache that we have to go through. Many are here to help others through the transition of waking up and leaving our life we had. (It is a grieving process-denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance).

There is no hurry to do anything. We have the rest of our lives to discover whatever. I used to live for the "end coming soon" and put off really living. Now I'm not.

So question, ask, lurk, do whatever you desire to do when you desire to do it.

hugs,

j2bf

stillajwexelder

I was in the same position myself and one or two on this board criticized me for being a hypocrite -- I did not take it personally and I have since grown -- still just about a JW but no longer go on the dor to door work. Keep going

mouthy

Great to see you back Dothemath.... Was wondering how you were doing. It must be very painful for you to continue as an elder. But YOU! should know >WE only have one Judge>HE knows your heart. It is the WAY! TRUTH! LIFE....... Jesus Christ. You will know what to do -if you continue to speak to the mediator NO NOT THE 144.000 But the ONLY mediator Jesus Christ.If you have family you dont want to lose I dont blame you for taking it slow....But maybe you can educate them before they stifle you..My prayers are for you.. I DO Belive the HOLY SPIRIT will teach you what you need to know

God Bless in your search my Love & prayers

Grace Gough

jgnat

Dothemath, I do not think you are a hypocrite, because you are internally consistent. That is, you are doing your best to live what you believe. Your post was thoughtful, compassionate, and Christ-like.

The ones I would call hypocrites are those who claim to be perfectly happy to remain in the organization (being the only "truth" they have known) while on their own time they live as they please. It is as if they do not believe any more that God is watching, and if the elders didn't catch them, who cares?

There may come a time when it no longer is possible for you to keep your ethics and continue as an elder. If you do come to such an impasse, I have every confidence you will make the wise decision.

Sirona

Oh come on!

Whilst I admit that it takes time for some to leave the JW organisation after they realise what is really going on, it appears that dothemath still may intend to stay, and not just stay, but remain an elder.

We have many on this board who suffered abuse at that organisations hands (yes, because they didn't act against the abuser) and yet dothemath seems to think that its perfectly morally acceptable to stand in front of those poor souls in his congregation and encourage them to remain a JW. He might be giving his watered down version of the JW doctrine, but he is still ENCOURAGING THEM TO STAY IN A DAMAGING CULT.

He isn't just like an average JW John Doe who is on the outskirts doing a slow fade. He is actively participating and may even decide to remain.

All you who think that that course of action is OK should maybe read crisis of conscience and see how Franz actually acted in accordance with his conscience instead of continuing to mislead and hurt others. Its not easy to leave the JWs, but if you know the truth about them, it is necessary to STOP hurting the JW masses by continuing to mislead them and supporting the Organisation's stance on child molestation, etc.

Sirona

Joyzabel

Its not easy to leave the JWs, but if you know the truth about them, it is necessary to STOP hurting the JW masses by continuing to mislead them and supporting the Organisation's stance on child molestation, etc.

You made some very good points, Sirona. But everyone's "crisis of conscience" comes at different times, different ways and who are we to judge other's actions when they have come to question and learn.

just mho

j2bf

LittleToe

Though I DA'ed publically, my decision to leave was about four months before I finally left. Meanwhile I was in exactly the same position. I didn't act lightly, nor impulsively (just radically ).

I applaude anyone who can stomach it, and if they can leave gracefully and retain their family, all the better.
For me it wasn't possible - I was too high profile, and I was being closed in on due to posting demographic information on this site.

I recommend reading information on exiting by Amazing and Expatbrit, then draw your own conclusions.

Regardless of your conclusion, don't act rashly, as you will have consequences to bear, whichever method of exit you use.

(Edited to add link)

Joker10

I'm currently an elder and don't plan on leaving the organization

The sooner you do, the better. If you think you will do great hanging here and serving Jehovah at the same time, you are wrong. Many here are JW-haters. You are an elder for sake. I wonder how you can sleep at night.

integ

Give Dothemath a break please. He'll leave when the time is right. We don't know all the circumstances. Plus, if he can report to us on some of the inner goings-on in the cong. it could prove useful, if not entertaining.

Integ.

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