by logansrun 245 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Stacey,
Obviously, you must have missed what I said. Here! I'll paste it for you!
an opinion based on factual evidence and historical precedence.
I put "historical precedence" in there for the exact reason you mentioned, ie, there is no way to show that "militant nationalism" is wrong using scientific methods.
So, there you have it -- historical precedence, eg. the Nazis, authoritarian communisim, genocidal tribalism, etc... Does this clarify things for you?
Bradley
As clear as mud Bradley.
Historical Precedence doesn't fall into nearly the same classification as scientific does it? It still can be a subjective area such as opinions. Certainly some areas such as the nazis or tribalism seem very clear to us I wouldn't put militant nationalism in the same category since both militant and nationalism can be subjective, such as to what degree of militanism or nationalism would be applied.
So it's still just your opinion Bradley and your opinion doesn't impress everyone.
Stacey,
Historical Precedence doesn't fall into nearly the same classification as scientific does it?
True. I never said it did.
Certainly some areas such as the nazis or tribalism seem very clear to us I wouldn't put militant nationalism in the same category
What you just said is that Nazism was not militant nationalism. I don't think that is what you meant to say, but that is what you just said. You need to clarify that statement.
since both militant and nationalism can be subjective, such as to what degree of militanism or nationalism would be applied.
Let's not become overly pedantic here. I think most people have a very clear idea what "militant nationalism" is. Can you give me an example of good militant nationalism?
So it's still just your opinion Bradley and your opinion doesn't impress everyone
Yes, it's an opinion. An opinion which I feel is based on reason and historical precedence. I also would not feel very comfortable if everyone agreed with me, certainly not if you agreed with me.
It's been nice exchanging barbs with you Stacey. Have a happy.
Bradley
*pulls Brads strings*
who's your mama, who's your mama
Let's not become overly pedantic here. I think most people have a very clear idea what "militant nationalism" is. Can you give me an example of good militant nationalism?
a good idea isn't an exact idea. A good example? Well perhaps what Yeru practices would be considered good militant nationalism. Perhaps the idea that many would pick up a weapon to defend their nation would be considered good.
Attempting to exterminate an entire race such as the nazis did would be considered a bad example. At least that's my opinion Bradley.
According to my Oxford, "nationalism" is defined as "patriotic feeling, principles or efforts; policy of national independence."
"Militant" is "engaged in warfare; combatative, aggressively active."
Given those definitions, a good example of militant nationalism would be Britain during World War II.
And was Nazism really an example of militant nationalism? If so, which nationality specifically?
Expatbrit
Stacy,
Why do you catagorize "what Yeru practices" as an example of militant nationalism?
You may be confusing militant nationalism with national liberation movements. The connotation of "militant nationalism" is that of a power using "pride in ones nation" to gain support of its citizens for oppressive imperialist pursuits.
A national liberation movement is when an oppressed people or nation organize and use militant tactics to pursue freedom from the oppressors.
By the way, isn't your email and yahoo IM stacy_rebornvirgin? How could you possibly even joke about being Brad's mama with a name like rebornvirgin?
"Militant" is "engaged in warfare; combatative, aggressively active."
expat,
"Militant" is "engaged in warfare; combatative, aggressively active."
Britain (and the allies) were not aggressors in WW II, they were on the defensive.
The Nazis were fascist hyper-nationalists whose goal was Arayan supremecy and genocide of "inferior races." Yes, I think they would fall under the category of "militant nationalism." Do you disagree?
We can argue over the semantics of "militant nationalism" but I think the term is really quite clear and any attempts to obfuscate that point could be equated simply as a defense of the hypernationalist militancy we personally advocate.
Bradley...who has a meeting to be at and must go!
I went out with a South African girl who could be mistaken for a plain-looking sister of yours... I thought that with your last Avatar piccy and this one's more so.
Abaddon, wtf is that supposed to mean? Sorry, bro, but I'm getting a little edgy about your "condescension"...................whether you realize it or not? This is a very consdenscentious attitude towards Stacy.................
Terri
