by orangefatcat 44 Replies latest jw friends
"But then she put her hand on me and whispered she loves me." Let those words carry you for the rest of your life. No, the joke wasn't on you as you say. Your mom needs someone. We are not an island unto ourselves. You say, "Especially not me?" The very fact she put her hand on you, reveals care.
Believe me, she will remember your visit. If anything, carry those memorial thoughts with you, it will comfort you. The best and never give up hope.
Guest 77
Mom said you9Terry) know the rules, you are the one who left us and so that is the way it has to be..
Sorry to hear this Orangefatcat, they have the knack of totally twisting it to make them self look like the wornged ones. Hope things will sort out one day. Thinking of ya
Brummie
Orange,
I feel for you. I am going through something similar.
I hope things feel better for you soon. It's not your fault and keep remembering this.
Big hugs,
Heather
(((OFC))) you are to be commended on trying to be the 'better' person.
You acted out of pure unadulterated love, and with that, unconditionally.
I take my hat off to you, and respect you highly for what you did.
I know last night, the roads up your way were snowbound and dangerous, so you and Marco were indeed very brave for making a trip in to see Mom.
Your Love is real.
Your concern is real.
You are a real person with real feelings and concern for you Mom. You did the right thing. It's never easy especially when it's with a believing JW family member.
Big Hugs to you, we're here, and supportive for what it is worth.
Best wishes,
Warm Hugs, and Safe Keeping (North of Toronto),
ol' Rayzorblade
Here I sit this morning tears streaming down my face. The tears are for all of you because you all care so very much. I love each and every one of you with all my heart.
You are all just so wonderful and I am proud to call each and everyone of you my friend.
May this Season of Peace not be only for ourselves but for much of the word as a barbarian has been caught and perhaps some sanity will come to pass for all man and women and children.
My Tears are tears of Joy. God Bless each and every one of you as we Celebrate The Holiday Season.
All my love Terry.
shoot! I just wrote a long post to you Terry and lost it all!! the page took to long to change and it lost it!!
Now to remember what I said?? and not be away from my work too long at my desk!
let me come back!! but I do have more to say..
hang in there.. we love ya!! (((((((((((((((((TERRY))))))))))))))))))
I wish I could remember everything I tried to post this morning!! Let me try.
Terry, I'm glad you see the love outpoured to you in this thread. Many of us have felt similar pain in our lives for similar reasons. It's not natural to be cut off from family and yet this religion does it. We can have empathy and understanding for you. What helps me I guess is not to put the anger on the people but on the WTS. If our loved ones were not so blinded, they would be in our lives. It keeps coming back to me what you said about your mom saying she loved you. You made the comment that she never was a very good as expressing love even when you were a JW, so for her to be telling you that, no doubt truly came from her heart in the only way she could. She could have not spoken the words. What helps me, as I began is remember why, the honest hearted reasons which justify in a softer way why they do not associate with us. In a twisted way, they may actually think that is showing love but obeying, setting and example and trying to get us back. True it won't, but it doesn't mean we aren't loved. Your comments tell me you are even if you need more.
We all need more. Fortunately we have each other. Hang in here... focus if you can on the positives.. even if they are small.. you heard the word love.. thats a big word.. and a word that some may not get to hear..
I'm glad that your grandmother was there as a good loving influence for you. My mother's mother also hated the JWs. When she died, she was out of here head and rambling about Jehovah's Witneses coming. She was scared. She begged me when I was little, when I grew up to leave them. Unfortunately she died long before I was out too.. all I could do was hold her hand..
You Poor Thing ((((((Orange fat cat)))))))
I am so sorry your mother is being this way. It really makes me angry to see how the organization can make people effect their families.
My dad had a stroke early this year. I was around to help the family out. It seemed things were on the mend, but I havent had much contact with them now that he has recovered and they dont NEED me anymore.
Happy thoughts coming your way OFC
I have come to realize, that many of you are definately right. It is indeed the Governing Body of The WB&TS that has seperated families to such a degree, that many have taken drastic means of escape even some committed suicide. They regulate or rule the congregations. So that those of us who have sinned and grieved as they call it the Holy Spirit are poision because we didn't repent according to their ways. Hhowever many of us have repented in our own way and they have no right to judge us. Yes who gives them the right to place such as judgement upon us. They have absouletly no idea what is in our hearts or what lead us to leave the org. only to be put on their popular "disfellowshipping list. How dare they!! They are playing God. In that the last bk of the script. it says, '"that if any one should add or take away from these holy scrolls will die and go to this place called Gehanna."'
I wonder if they realize (GB) that they are the worst offenders of this. They have removed texts from scriptures and placed their own interpration. They use the word disfellowship which appears in no translation of the Scriptures. They impose rigid man made laws that they have made up to punish people in the cong. and at the same time put the wrath of God in others for fear of questioning them. In any Bible.
I remember yesterday that I said to my mom that , you are my family my mom and no man made organization can take that away. " We are flesh and blood I am your daughter. My mom said don't talk about the org. like that. She knows I am right.
The GB have no idea what it is to show true love and forgivness. They have superceeded the natural law of love and destroyed it. Their form of love has become distorted.
Oh they may use scriptures to keep the congregations in line or in obedience to them. But deep down most if not all JW. dislike the rules of disfellowshipping. But fear keeps them like little children how are afraid of a boogey man!!
Remember the prodigal son. Did the father shun his son for all the wrong he had done? No but openned his arms and opennly accepted his son, and no questions asked. That is uncondtional love.
I am going to be spiteful here towards to the GB. when it is a well known fact that they allowed grotesque sinners to remian in the confines of Bethel. (OF COURSE IN THE LAP OF LUXURY) So the rules for them are not the same for the congs. or for you and me. We had one former GB shipped to another country and we never heard hide nor hare of him ever again. What luxury town does he live in?????
Double standards is what they play. They would rather destroy loving homes and see them divided against each other. Even when family members are willing to forgive the family member who may have hurt them or done wrong by them because of the natural laws of love. Its just not good enough for them. The GB. They need to fill some so called law they made up or rather doctored up by putting scriptures together to make them say what they want the Bible to say. Remember Gehanna?
Orangefatcat is fine now and I will remember that if mom and my sisters want me they know where I live. I made the first move. I have to tell you it was tough, but I feel the better for it.
Love and Hugs
Orangefatcat Terry
So many families torn apart because of their stupid laws. I hope their end comes soon.
When it comes to your mom, well she is just doing what she is told. Don't hold it against her.
It was commendable that you offered the olive branch first.
wannaexit
