Favorite/least favorite CO's

by OrangeBlossom 394 Replies latest members private

  • chickpea
    chickpea

    valorz had just moved out of minnesota 6
    when i started the indoctrination, but several
    people had tapes of his talks and yes he did
    seem like a genuinely nice man....

    the ones i can recall were sheldon,
    archie datoc, mark spencer, robt burdge...
    there was a japanese-american just as
    we were fading, started with a T i think...

    anyway... it was my experience that
    all of there were relatively nice guys
    with nice wives... sheldon, i really didnt
    have any truck with.... he was gone
    shortly after we started drinking the k00l-aid

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    Wow, I skimmed most of this.. Oh the names.... Here's my list. I rate not by good or bad, but by sneaky or straight. Never be fooled by a smiling CO. Big life lesson for me. Also, my opinion as to whether they really believe all the bullshit.

    Steve Gilmore. My last CO, the one who made two of the most amazing comments to me as I was leaving. "It takes so much more reading of the publications just to keep your faith these days." and "It all comes down to if you still believe and have faith that the Faithful and Discreet Slave is being used by Jehovah" as I was bawling my brains out over the phone. (haven't told that story yet) He was "nice" and a total company man. One of the new breeds who imo, learned from the old hardliners that you could kiss just as much ass, and be just as loyal without flaunting your title. Didn't mean they didn't flaunt their power.

    Richard Findlay. Amazing speaker. Amazing intellect. Amazing golfer. He was sufficiently self aware to realize that he could potentially come across as overbearing, and actually slow played his intelligence. Do I think he believed the bullshit? Depends on the day. He was/is a Knorr guy. Probably still too stuck at the nipple of the GB to try and pay attention. Besides that, his wife Cece, a gem of a woman, IS dyed in the wool, and Richard adores his wife. So his marriage and religion are probably a package deal, regardless of what he really knows or believes.

    Paul Koehler. Nice. "Humble". And absolutely scary. This guy is totally in the background and knew how to play the game imo. Would always talk of his faults, how bad of a speaker he was. And at elders meetings, well, I wasn't an elder then. I heard bits and pieces, and read his S-2 reports. Nothing much to learn really. Would I trust him? No. This guy really does believe that the GB walks on water.

    Paul Illingworth: DO and the brother most responsible for me being appointed on his visit to my backwards congregation in Michigan. Removed one old stubborn, stupid elder, chastised two others. Big "scandal" involving associating with DF relatives by 2 elders who were father and son. MTS guru. Said one of the weirdest prayers I ever heard at a CA, as he talked about Jehovah as if he were staring at a picture of him in the Revelation Climax book. Overall, much more balanced and reasonable then I would have imagined....

    Douglas Hunter. Sorry Doug, if you are reading this, I am saying this because I bet you are here sometimes. I know you don't believe this shit. Give it up. You know it all.

    Timothy Bland: Absolute weirdo. Great sense of humor though, could really do Rodney Dangerfield well. He lasted a year, taught my pionner school in Muskegon MI. That last night, we had a camp fire and as that was his last official CO day, he just stared whisftully at the fire for hours. I couldn't blame him. Was as human a CO as I ever met. Evidentally, his wife in Nebraska left him, and it left him a wee bit bitter and/or broken. Went to the 2nd or 6th class of MTS, something like that. From what I gathered, he and Doug Hunter didn't regard each other in high esteem. A year after he left the road and returned to Omaha Nebraska, rumors were rampant that he went apostate. He called us and left a message saying he wasn't apostate and not to believe every rumor you hear. (??!!) It wasn't even us Tim, it was F_____ B______. (I digress. And F____, if you are reading, I miss you...) Oh well. He was emotional and not well suited to be a CO.

    In Florida, I have working memories of 3.

    Haislup. The CO who encouraged us to pioneer, but not to move to Michigan. Oh well. He got started in the CO work in New Orleans and was nice, his wife was aloof/tired/burnt out/sick/sick and tired/used up.

    Franklin Park. Korean brother, wife was Judy (?) and totally a nutcase. I swear she always talked to you like she thought she was vauguely aware she might be hallucinating. Park was a great

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    Oh, it got truncated. Park and his wife like me a lot, which shows how much of a jerk I was as a JW teen.... Park was a great speaker, and could stick the knife in your back while smiling at your face.

    Hudson Owens: Southern Ozark scary. I stayed out of his way as a teen. Probably liked it that way, as he gave the impression he liked to feed on the flesh of scared elders.

    I know of other CO's but never got to know them well. Scaglione, Rotella. Merril.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    Anyone in th UK come across Bill Harris? Excellent speaker, highly intelligent, the congregation loves him, the Elders are scared of him, definitely the iron hand in the velvet glove. I wonder how someone like that can't see through the BS.

  • tenyearsafter
    tenyearsafter

    John Paluso was my fav...great guy, caring, funny and FAR too nice to be a CO!

  • designs
    designs

    Alonzo Hawkins- I hear he passed away, smart, liked teaching, the Obama of his time.

    Billy Ford- I don't know why he was so angry all of the time, the bad karma would fill the Hall.

  • stillin
    stillin

    great thread!

    Where is CO Bob Simons these days? He had a heart and seemed destined to leave the Borg.

    Also, is Fred Cua still in the circuit work? I liked him when he was younger, but time takes a toll...

    It seems that ALL of the recent CO's take a "don't make waves" approach, unless you consider that the Words of a CO are the Words of God. Then a simple opinion becomes something important!

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    I wonder if Micheal Purbrick is still a knob?

  • besty
    besty

    hey jook - yes Purbrick is a pompous little ass - he was at your Dad's funeral and I introduced myself to him at your Mum's house afterwards - the last time we had met was about 15 years previously when he was our CO in Scotland - he and his wife Valerie stayed in our family home for one of his visits

    anyways - he just gave me a cold look as if I was something he had stood on and replied to the effect he was only at your Mum's house for a few minutes so couldn't spend any more time trying to remember who I was.

    bad case of small man syndrome if I ever I saw it.

  • dissed
    dissed

    tenyearsafter

    Jonnie Paluso was a very good friend of mine. And you are right, he was one of the best the JW's ever produced.

    My wife mentions an old pioneer partner of ours who entered the work in 1994 and is still serving. I remember him saying when he was being trained, a CO taught him how to lie and get away with it. He said firmly, he listened respectfully to his trainer, but told me, he would never do that, not on his watch.

    I wonder sometimes if he will leave. He was very good at seeing through the hypocrisy and would stand up for something he thought was wrong.

    Add on: Something very hard to do if you remain a JW

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