Well their is a globalist socialist platform out there. But the only way it will work is to get the united States to give up it's sovereignty. And that's why the Democrats who are part of this scheme are trying to weaken the u.s. by the illegal alien invasion and massive crime. Etc. so a less powerful united states will have no choice but to join in.and if this occurs I can see them going after religion
2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change
by Listener 47 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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blondie
I vote in every election, try to help proven good people (by their actions, not their words, see how their promises worked out) to get re-elected, money and my time, local and national, especially local. I don't try to predict the future, or based on current events and past ones, that this will happen. I have lived through 3 times on the earth being on the brink of WW3 (I had military contacts and behind the scenes of what the public were not being told). I see that now, some or too many similarities. I hope that people today and world leaders are starting to see this. I am trying to be positive and do practical things I can. I don't ascribe to any WTS teachings on this matter, or other religions predictions. I have seen too many fail and be adjusted. I hope things work out, or do what I can to be part of the solution, not the problem, I try to value all people as we are all in the same boat, the earth that is.
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Duran
"Even though the "Great Crowd" is growing larger all the time and the remnant of the "Little Flock" of anointed followers of Christ is getting smaller in numbers..." WT 3/1 pg 149
LOL! That was said in 1961.
Just another thing the WTS/GB needs to adjust in their understanding/make a change is that there is no GC as of yet. None who have died since 61 and prior and who continue to die presently each day can be part of the said GC. This is because the GC is said to come out of the GT which is still yet to come. So, if one does not live during the time of the GT they cannot be part of the said GC that come out of it.
[9 After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”...13 In response one of the elders said to me: “These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?” 14 So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one who knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.]
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Well their is a globalist socialist platform out there. But the only way it will work is to get the united States to give up it's sovereignty.
(5:10 - 6:10min)
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hoser
Western countries are headed for failure IMO
Hedonism
It seems everyone is hell bent on having a good time at the expense of everything else.
Governments keep printing their paper dollars to pacify the masses.
A big financial correction is in the cards
Are you ready?
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ThomasMore
Blondie - WTC has been dancing around the marriage of the lamb for decades and they still don't seem to want to commit. Your comment was spot on, and it reveals that WTC probably does not think that the end is near, if they think it is coming at all.
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Vidqun
Duran, you've got some serious mixing and matching going on there:
"All needed nations will give their power to the UN when the time comes [Rev. 17:12]. This is necessary in order to bring about the 8th and final king that is used by God to serve as the 'hour of test'/hour of judgment'/'judgment on the house of God' [1 Peter 4:17; Rev. 3:10; 17:11, 12]. This 'hour' is the 42-month period of GT [Rev. 13:5; 17:11]. It is only GT for those that are refusing to go along with the rule of the UN. Prior to the UN getting the power to become the 8th king, WW3 must occur, it is the death-stroke on the beast as the 7th king [13:3]. The beast being revived is when it becomes the 8th king. [13:3; 17:11]"
Few problems here:
1) Remember beast with deathstroke only had ruling authority 42 months. Beast from the earth would take its place: "He exercised all the ruling authority of the first beast on his behalf" (Rev. 13:12). "The second beast was empowered to give life to the image of the first beast" (Rev. 13:15 NET). First beast is no more. Beast from the earth brought to life a new beast.
2) One hour is not equal to 42 months (3 1/2 years). (11:13; 17:12; 18:10, 17, 19; cf. 8:1).
3) I'd say we are now at Rev. 6:8. Next is Rev. 6:12 (sixth seal).
4) "He also caused everyone... to obtain a mark on their right hand or on their forehead" (Rev. 13:16 NET). Seems like the worship-part is the deadly part (13:15; 14:11; 19:20; 20:4).
5) Hour of test: First century Philadelphian congregation (3:10; cf. 1:11, 19; 4:1).
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Dagney
I’m not even hearing this guy speak and his condescending manner of “Watchtower speak” is screaming at me.
What a load of cockamamie word soup bull s**t!!! It is truly laughable, to me.
PS. As a side note/comment. I went to the KH yesterday for a memorial of a distant relative by marriage. I have not seen the deceased in decades but went to support her daughter who is not a JW and was estranged ffor that reason. And I figured I wouldn’t know anybody there except the family, so a little less anxiety.
Two things stood out to me.
The attendance was very small, maybe 20-25 non family. The folks were very sweet, older, very kind…tired. I cannot even imagine these people giving a hoot about these changes. They just want to make it to paradise.
Out of a combined number of this group of family, maybe 30ish still living, only the sister of the deceased and 8 on my side of the family are still JWs. 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
Thank you for posting this recap. It reminds me of how grateful I am not to have to depend on the whims of the FDS. 🥂
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Longlivetherenegades
Speculation, assumptions filled religious organisation
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Beth Sarim
You hear it often;
"We can assume...."