Okay, I want $40.00 a month from you..
When your policy matures, you will be rich beyond your wildest dreams.
I can't show you what I'm investing your money in, let you talk to investors who have had their policies mature, or provide any evidence to back-up my claims.
I know there are other people making the same sort of claims, but I'm the one who is right, but I can't meaningfully differentiate myself from the others as the only evidence I or they have are books telling us that this scheme works, or statements by people who feel happy with their investment plan (despite having no evidence to support it), or people who were visited by magic invisable sales people for the investment plan... and don't have any real evidence they were actually visited.
Anyone investing in the above would be considered a fool by most people.
Substitute faith for $40, and tell me what the difference is...
LT
You've done plenty of attacking of beliefs, whilst providing little substancial argumentation.
But the people supporting beliefs provide little substancial argumentation! That's the entire point.
Whilst I applaud the efforts of Flower and yourself to stand up for yourselves (and wouldn't have it any other way), you deliver plenty of "anger"as expressed in the tone of your posts (though this will likely eventually abate - else chew you up).
It's a cycle that we have all been through - some for longer than others - and which has been posted about frequently
I think it is a little condescending to assume you are able to judge at what point in recovery someone is, and that their anger will pass. It's based on the big big suppostion that you are right. If you are not right, then the anger is justified, as religion would be nothing more than a con.
For a case example of this you need only read the posts of Reborn2002, who went through several such cycles.
Much as I really like the guy and his intelligence, there were times when I called him on his caustic manner, too.
If there is no god and if religion is just a 'snare and a racket', then again people's resentment and anger at religion and the fictional justifications for it are jusitifed. If there's no god, and what we call 'spirituality' is basically just fuzzy wishful thinking, people are right to be caustic and wrong to be critical of those who are caustic. Again, your objections are based on the assumption you are right.
Faith, fills the vacancy left by belief in a God too small to be present.
Sorry, are we talking about god being too small to be present, and how faith fills this gap? Or do we mean belief (i.e. substansiatable) being too small for god to be considered present without us having faith (unsubstansiatable).
Sorry, I do that to the aphorisms on motivational posters in my office, it's not anti-religious, it's anti-slogan-with-pretty-picture-attached. Obviously it's probably the latter, and, as with many apohrism, is a statement of the bleedin' obvious;
Faith is the willful suspension of disblief
