All About The Trinity

by UnDisfellowshipped 287 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    Herk,

    Good recommendation. Here are two sources to begin with.

    http://www.letusreason.org/Trin8.htm

    {There is a discussion on pagan statues with 3 heads}

    http://trisagionseraph.tripod.com/pagan.html

  • UnDisfellowshipped
  • UnDisfellowshipped
    UnDisfellowshipped

    First Herk posts all sorts of Trinity "diagrams" from who-knows-where and then is suspicious when people want more info about these diagrams??? What's up with that?

  • herk
    herk

    UnDisfellowshipped,

    Herk . . . is suspicious when people want more info about these diagrams??? What's up with that?

    To accuse a person of being suspicious without anything to warrant or justify such a conclusion gives some insight as to how the accuser reads the Bible. Little wonder such a person comes away from the Bible as a believer in an unscriptural Trinity. Could it be that at least a little bitterness is showing?

    herk

  • UnDisfellowshipped
    UnDisfellowshipped

    Herk said:

    To accuse a person of being suspicious without anything to warrant or justify such a conclusion gives some insight as to how the accuser reads the Bible. Little wonder such a person comes away from the Bible as a believer in an unscriptural Trinity. Could it be that at least a little bitterness is showing?

    It certainly appears to me that you were suspicious and were questioning Kenneson's motives for being interested in your "diagrams".

    Herk said earlier to Kenneson:

    Why has this become such a big and important issue with you? [...] I find it fascinating that one person can allow himself to become bogged down with a matter so trivial
    And also, WHO is the one that is "bogged down" with these diagrams? Who keeps posting these endless diagrams and images which do not even relate to my beliefs or anyone else's Trinitarian beliefs that I am aware of (except the false Catholic Church).
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    Herk said:

    Surely you have access to the internet and to encyclopedias in your local library!

    Maybe if Herk spent more time reading the Bible, and using it in his/her arguments, he/she would be more credible.

  • UnDisfellowshipped
    UnDisfellowshipped

    Also, even if Herk's beliefs were correct about the Trinity, I think Herk would turn me off on religion, because of his/her anger and hatred and name-calling. I am not judging or condemning, I am simply posting a "fruitage" inspection report.

    Notice these Verses:

    1st Corinthians 13:1-7: T hough I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

    1st Corinthians 8:1-3: N ow concerning things offered to idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. But if anyone loves God, this one is known by Him.

  • herk
    herk

    UnDisfellowshipped,

    Maybe if Herk spent more time reading the Bible, and using it in his/her arguments, he/she would be more credible.

    I think Herk would turn me off on religion, because of his/her anger and hatred and name-calling. I am not judging or condemning, I am simply posting a "fruitage" inspection report.

    Perhaps if you could start moving away from making personal attacks you might be able to concentrate more on the subject matter. For your information, I've read the Bible cover-to-cover several times, and I continue without fail to read in it every day, as I've done for most of my 70 years or so.

    Apparently truth hurts you to an extreme extent. Otherwise, why would you accuse me of hatred and name-calling, etc., when there's no evidence for it?

    herk

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    UnDisfellowshipped

    Also, here are more Scriptures which clearly show that you must believe in the TRUE God and the TRUE Jesus to be saved:

    Romans 10:1-2: B rethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.

    Romans 10: 9-17: that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame." For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For "whoever calls on the name of the L ord shall be saved." How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: " How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!" But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, "L ord , who has believed our report?" So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

  • UnDisfellowshipped
    UnDisfellowshipped

    Herk said to me:

    Perhaps if you could start moving away from making personal attacks you might be able to concentrate more on the subject matter.

    I'm sorry but that is the biggest hypocritical statement I have seen in a long time!

    This, coming from a person who once accused me of "being on drugs" and an intentional liar and deceiver, and made several, several personal attacks and insults against me in at least three different Threads, including several in this Thread.

    Not to mention that Herk has ignored at least 5 or 6 very important questions I asked in this Thread and that other Trinity Thread.

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