Realist, On Israel

by Yerusalyim 95 Replies latest social current

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim
    jews are not more or less victims than any other group and i see no reason why we have to tip toe around that.

    Really? How many other races had half their members killed off in the last 60 years and were systematically persecuted for over 2000 years.

    as a matter of fact some populations are in terms of efficiency superior to others.

    Population or race? You sure sound racist here lately...issue?

  • Realist
    Realist

    yeru,

    You sure sound racist here lately...issue?

    besides having issues with the politically incorrect terminology do you disagree with the assessment? if so how? are you telling me the jewish population is not more efficient than the arab one?

    How many other races had half their members killed off in the last 60 years and were systematically persecuted for over 2000 years.

    in absolut losses the numbers are not outstanding (sadly!).

    also...you are using the term RACE! seems you are not quite as politically correct as you would like to be!

  • avishai
    avishai
    grow a brain yourself and wake up you media puppet!
    jews are not more or less victims than any other group and i see no reason why we have to tip toe around that.OK........
    in absolut losses the numbers are not outstanding

    What the hell?

    My thoughts here are not as a result of "media".

    My great-grandfather was dressed as a girl and snuck across the russian border strapped to his mothers leg under her hoop skirt. Other relatives of mine were massacred in ghetto's that they were'nt allowed to leave in russia. Others were murdered in Germany, Poland and Hungary. This is'nt media, these are things I've seen for myself. I'm not a jew, but I've had skinheads try to kick my ass anyway for my name and "jewish" appearance. Race or Religion, either one, whether we have tha appearance of being Jewish, or are, we still get shit for it. Ever been called a kike? Been punched for it? HAD to fight for your l ife because of it? Then don't call me a puppet, pal..

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    ""and you my friend have made so many wrong statements (fonfusing FACTs etc.) over the last month that it is not worth debating it. ""

    LOL, I back up my claims with names and dates, you claim a lot, but offer no proof for your claims, once more. You are right, however, the information is posted for all to read.....

    Agian, we get you to a point in logic where you have the chance to acknowledge reality, and you fold with circular reasoning....you should try to choose reality once in a while.

    Can't you just admit you are wrong on any one issue presented here?

  • Realist
    Realist

    avi,

    one has always difficulties to see the shortcomings of the ones own side and group. in this respect i totally understand your opinion about jewish people and israel. i react similarly if someone attacks austrians.

    i have not personally been attacked but my family has also suffered greatly because of the wars. horror did not just happen to jews. 50 to 60 million people were alone killed in the madness of WWII. another 15 million were killed in russia alone by communist terror.

    i know this is little comfort but skinheads do attack everyone if they want to pick a fight. they attack people for the wrong haircut, the wrong dressing or without any reason. so do other hooligans.

    thichi,

    which issue would that be?

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Never fuck with the Israelis -- they do not mess around --they do not listen to their whining, moaning leftie liberals -- they just get what needs to be done -- why pretend -- if there is a terrorist mastermind - just take him out -- it is not Politically Correct to say so -- but the only language terrorsits respect is force -- incidentally Arabs in general respect strength

  • avishai
    avishai

    Sorry 'bout your family in the wars. But this happened in russia before stalin. Who was'nt a peach either. Taht guy was an asshole.

  • little witch
    little witch

    Hi all. I just wanted to thank everyone who has contributed here. I am a big history buff, and am currently studying the Israel_Palestine issue.

    I just finished a book entitled A History Of The Holocaust by Yehuda Bauer. I don't take any authors word for fact, and so it will continue to be an in depth study for me. Over all it is a thoughtfull account of the rise of Zionism and it's connections to modern Israel (mostly the Holocaust Era however), and somewhat heavy on the blame game.

    Most notable is the explaination on "what is a Jew"? There are many different sects of Judiaism, just as there are in Protestant Christianity. I was suprised to learn that the Orthodox Jews were very much anti-Zionism. That many Jewish persons are athiest, agnostic, etc!

    I think history is very valuable as to understanding evolving thought and custom, but I also feel that alot can change in a generation or two. The here and now must also hold great consideration.

    So thanks again for this discussion. Discussion is learning IMO. One liners and innuendo doesn't help much, but in depth discussion of issues is most helpful.

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy
    Simon says: More semite republican propaganda and bullshit.
    I really wish Americans would wake up to the fact that they are being ridden like a cheap whore by their "ally" Isreal.

    sheesh so angry

    In 1857, the British consul in Palestine, James Finn, reported, "The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is that of a body of population."
    More semite republican propaganda and bullshit
  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    Anyone one notice that JWs stereo types are like inverted Jew stereo types. It is odd becaue we are a more judiac sect than a christian one.

    I don't fell sorry for the jews they have been around a long time. Feeling sorry for them is likefeeling sorry for ----- Man I was going to insert well known animals that have existed a long time, but I can't becaue it would sound racist. It is odd how animals survivors tend to have negative streotypes too. I wonder how hindus lasted so long with out many negatives tacked on? Also how did they not make it into the bible if they are so "old" and close. I guess you have to try to take over Jerusalem to get in.

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