Why cannot some people say the words..."I love you".

by gumby 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • got my forty homey?
    got my forty homey?

    I have a extrememly had time telling my loved ones I love them, but my Father never told me he loved me. I dont like kissing, touching, shaking hands, public signs of affection. But then are times that when walking down the street I'll hold my wives hand, or hug a male friend that I'm real tight with that I haven't seen in years.

    I hate shaking hands because I can only imagine people who do not wash thier hands after using the bathroom!

    And another phobia I have is eating other peoples food cooked and brought say to a party of dinner. Every year at the bus depots the female operators always bring food in on Thanksgiving that they prepare at home for those of us that have to work, and I can't and refuse to eat any food from someone's home if I never went to thier home and seen for myself how clean it was. For all I know they could have cockroaches coming out of the lightbulbs.

    Just more ravings from the lunantic mind of the Forty

  • Obviously Secret
    Obviously Secret

    I never said "I love you" and meant it. The person hasn't came along yet. I'm much like Nos. My dad was freakin touching my trying to be fatherly cause I was crying like the whole week before, and I was so angry at him cause he doesn't give a second thought about me ever but when my mom gets on my case or when something happens he tries to be fatherly and he sucks ass at it. Made me more angry it's terrible.

    I want to change that so badly though. I want to be able to really look into a person's eyes and say "I love you" with all my heart but it just haven't came around yet. Never. Kind of sucks in a way. I feel like a terrible terribler person at times cause I've never done anything for anybody out of love cause seriously, nobody has ever came.

    I had one kid that I was really cool with for about 4 years. He talked to me even though I was throw up boy. And I always tried to do stuff that made him happy and stuff. Not in a homosexual way just trying to be friends. I can honestly say I love him. Not in no gay way but ya know in a friendly way. But that was cut short since I got arrested. Haven't talked to him since. But oh well. I can litterally not say I love you to anybody without throwing up. Sucky feelin when you think about it.

  • gumby
    gumby

    XW,

    Are you drinking coffee again at this hour?

    Hugs,

    Gumby

  • xenawarrior
    xenawarrior

    YEP

    a late night for this one

    going to bed now

  • notperfectyet
    notperfectyet

    Ohiocowboy,

    I am sorry if you felt like I was attacking you, I was not in anyway. I sent you a pm.

    This is a touchy subject for me, because I was beaten half to death and told the whole time it was because they loved me.

    And it was Gumby I was telling he could kiss my a**, he started it.

    Once again OC, my apologies, I would say I love you and mean it, but..oh never mind......

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    It seems that lots of the "baby boomers" have suffered with the inability to express deep love--especially parents toward children, and especially father's toward daughters. This is just a generalization, but in my experience among my family and friends, it seems to have some merit.

    Oh how I wanted a hug and a "I love you" from my father. I got it all the time from my dear mother, but not from my father when I needed it the most--in my tender years and growing up. It was only in the last ten years of his life that he began to loosen up a bit. The hugs were still "guarded", but there were lots more "I love you's". The sad thing is, although I feel it is never too late, and I'm so glad he was able to be more expressive, our family had already suffered through great tragedies, and most of the siblings did not feel his love. Oh, he provided for his children....food, clothing and shelter, but he just was never there. We didn't know him. I needed that so badly and I practically begged for it, but it never came. I was actually pushed away and the memories are still there.

    I do try to dwell on the positive these days. I have reviewed my "young perceptions" of life, and I have readjusted my cognition, and the pain is put away. But it affected my life, and it still does. If you love someone, but you don't show it, for whatever reason, both people are being cheated out of a beautiful thing. Also, if you tell someone you love them, but act completely opposite, you send conflicting messages of what love really is.

    Love, Karen

  • Sunnygal41
    Sunnygal41

    Hey, Gumsofty!

    Only kiddin'! This is your year's project on the DB, isn't it? You had a thread not too long ago basically about this same thing, if I remember correctly. This happens to be one of my MAJOR concerns also, as I grew up in a very unstable home, where my dad was the ticking time bomb emotionally, and we never knew when he'd be in a good mood, full of fun and affection, or full of rage and destructive fury. So, if affection was shown, it was rare. Fast forward twenty some odd years and you have a young woman, desperately wanting to leave her abusive home life and ready to marry any half way decent young man who showed a minimal interest and affection to her. June 9, 1979 I was married to such a young man, even tho in my inner soul, I knew this relationship was not what I truly wanted. However, with the optimism of the young and inexperienced, I reasoned that with time, we could work on the things that needed to be worked on, and grow closer together, as our life together progressed. Fast forward twenty years later, to the day, June 9, 2001..........a judge is legally pronouncing that the marriage is over. If I had to point to one thing that I needed most of all in that marriage, it was the showing of affection, that natural comfortableness and loving closeness that happens with two loving, truly connected people when it's working the way it's supposed to! LOL! What I've learned from these personal experiences is how important and intrinsic both physical and emotional affection and connection is needed by myself. For many years, I thought that maybe I was just an extremely "needy" individual and that my expectations of a relationship were just too high. Actually, for many years, I vacillated between blaming myself and blaming him. Today, now that the hurt has subsided, and I've gone on to interact with others in various levels of relationship, and experienced life and love, I can look at it from a "clinically dispassionate" level. He came from a home that was pretty much devoid of physical expressions of affection and love, i.e. hugs, kisses. Add to that the continual break up and rejoining of his parents, and the eventual divorce they obtained, and that his mom was the "bar fly" type who didn't have time to interact with her son, and later after they divorced, a father who worked full time and then would go out and party, and you have a young man who never received or learned how to show affection on a personal level. But. And this is a big but. My come back always was and is "so, you never learned how...........start learning now." My attitude is, if it really matters to you, if it's really important to you, then you will take the steps needed to learn and embrace and practice it. So, what stops alot of people from doing this? FEAR. And, we all can make a list of all the fears involved. Fear produces an absence of growth in our lives. It keeps us stunted. And, if allowed to grow, it will result in the death of our inner person. Thank God/dess I was able to walk thru the pain and the fear and start a new life for myself. And, what's even more exciting is, I have no special ability. We can all do the same thing, at any point in time in our lives. As one of my favorite fictional characters often said: "today is a fresh new day with no mistakes in it." I try to live my life today, with optimism and hope.

    Ter

  • Sunnygal41
    Sunnygal41

    As usual, Tal and I are on the same page! LOL!

    I would go one step further, about fear, and repeat what I said in my own post: fear is the enemy of life and growth. All the myriad human experiences are covered in that statement, including love, which is the single most important emotion in the universe. As I'm typing this, I'm thinking that's probably what Tal is saying.

    Love ya, Tal!!! You raawwwwkk!!

  • Sunnygal41
    Sunnygal41
    It's all in how someone takes it, if they have a problem with someone saying I love you, their problem. Don't interpet how others mean it, mean what you say.

    NPY...........wow, that's an awesome comment! What you are saying is what others say or do does not matter, it is our personal responsibility to be real ourselves. We can't run around and psycho-analyze every gesture or comment others say. We can only control ourselves, so we should live our life as responsibly and lovingly as possible!

    I have a question for Dr. Love (i.e. Tal ) How does projection fit into this area of life? I'm just a bit confused by that whole concept. If we are projecting our own "shadow" onto another, is that saying what we are seeing in that other person really isn't valid, i.e. the guy isn't an ***hole, you are! ????

  • Special K
    Special K

    I think too that it is a product of our upbringing.

    However, I supposed, some people are just not as touchy feely as others. Just like some people need more peace, quiet and solitude whereas others like constant interaction and such.

    I've lost too many people in my life and learned very quickly after being kicked out of the borg that if there is someone I feel close to, care for, and love... then I need to say it and show it.

    No one knows what tomorrow could bring and those we truly love could be gone in an instant. I hug my kids and husband every day and tell them I love them every day. And also tell them "I love you" at the end of every phone conversation with them.. It's something I just have to do.

    I never want my kids to grow up like I did and feel that their parent did not love them. They need to hear it, gumby... they just need to hear it and they just need to feel that mothers hug that only I can give them.

    sincerely

    Special K

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