My comments above are accurate. When George Tenet heard about the first plane, he winced and said "I hope that isn't so-and-so (the name of a terrorist he knew of involved in flight training). When George Bush heard about it, he joked to a reporter something along the lines of "that is one bad pilot" and went on with his planned outing to a kindegarten class. This is where he was when the second plane hit, and when told about it, he just continued reading and listening to the kids.
If you don't understand why this is important, remind me not to vote for you for president. If indeed a situation arises wherein a leader can do nothing, then nothing is the appropriate response. This is not one of those cases.
There was confusion and shuffling and downright incompetance in the communication and authority structure of the response to the 9/11 highjackings. There is one person whose authority could have cut like a knife through that confusion. This was all made very clear during the recent hearings by the 9/11 commission involving NORAD and the FAA. Sometimes even leaders have to spring into action, roll up their sleeves, and give their best in an emergency situation. In fact, that's the kind of character I think most of us would want in our leaders.
Moreover, with this incredible crisis, this crime against America and the world on our doorstep, as the culprits came into focus, George Bush was openly looking, not for justice or prevention, but at finding a way to tie the attacks into Iraq and therefore justify his long standing wish to take military action against Iraq. He even diverted some 75 million dollars earmarked by congress for the fight against the Taliban and Al Queda and Osama bin Laden, to use it in developing a war plan against Iraq.
Why I May Vote for Kerry
by roybatty 61 Replies latest jw friends
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SixofNine
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seattleniceguy
I truly am amazed how well the Bush campaign's emphasis on "flip-flops" has worked.
In the real world, changing situations demand flexibliity and humility. Reworking your approach to a problem is good thing - indeed, people who are ideologically stuck on a single approach are the ones who are most dangerous to themselves and others. I admire a man who can admit that an approach was not successful and look for a better one. In the real world, honesty and clarity of sight often demand that we be willing to enlarge our viewpoint.
John Kerry seems to me to be intelligent and honest, two qualities that I do not see in Bush. I would rather have a President introspective enough to find where an approach was wrong, than one too arrogant or ideological to consider the possibility.
SNG
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Corvin
We dont want to lose our low end jobs, and they dont want their intellectuals leaving the country to work over here.
Since you propose that we stop exporting jobs, then I expect you to support other countries not allow anyone with a degree to leave the country in order to prevent brain drain.
LOL, yeah, 151, that's the exact same thing.
Millions of jobs
vs
A few educated minds
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patio34
Hi Six,
That was a really well stated post!
Hi SNG!
Good point about so-called "flip-flops." Anyone want to consider Bush's flip-flops?? Also, about Kerry is that he's a senator. It is very easy to attack their record, claiming flip-flops. It's one of the reasons senators are rarely elected president. The reason it appears they flip-flop is that a bill can be very complicated and include unacceptable portions so a senator will vote against it, but when it's amended and the offending portion is removed, they vote for it. No flip-flop, just complicated.
Pat
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Corvin
My comments above are accurate. When George Tenet heard about the first plane, he winced and said "I hope that isn't so-and-so (the name of a terrorist he knew of involved in flight training). When George Bush heard about it, he joked to a reporter something along the lines of "that is one bad pilot" and went on with his planned outing to a kindegarten class. This is where he was when the second plane hit, and when told about it, he just continued reading and listening to the kids.
That is actually a very telling response for a PODUS to have when just being informed that not one, but two, airplanes just plowed into the WTC. That is the reaction of someone who had knowledge before hand, and is now acting as if he is totally innocent. Think about it.
Corvin
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ApagaLaLuz
Chev, you are voting for Kerry because your Job was outsourced? That sucks but it is hardly Bush's fault and Kerry couldnt have prevented it.
Yep you're absolutely right 151, THAT's the reason I'm voting Kerry.
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SixofNine
very telling response for a PODUS to have
frickin' wops takin' over our country.
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Lewis
From the mouth of G. W. BUSH "Actually, I -- this may sound a little West Texan to you, but I like it. When I'm talking about -- when I'm talking about myself, and when he's talking about myself, all of us are talking about me." Hardball, MSNBC, May 31, 2000 "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." Reuters, May 5, 2000 "I think we agree, the past is over." On his meeting with John McCain, Dallas Morning News, May 10, 2000 "Laura and I really don't realize how bright our children is sometimes until we get an objective analysis." Meet the Press, April 15, 2000 "I was raised in the West. The west of Texas. It's pretty close to California. In more ways than Washington, D.C., is close to California." Los Angeles Times, April 8, 2000 "We want our teachers to be trained so they can meet the obligations, their obligations as teachers. We want them to know how to teach the science of reading. In order to make sure there's not this kind of federal cufflink." Fritsche Middle School, Milwaukee, March 30, 2000 "The fact that he relies on facts -- says things that are not factual -- are going to undermine his campaign." New YorkTimes, March 4, 2000 "It is not Reaganesque to support a tax plan that is Clinton in nature." Los Angeles Times, Feb. 23, 2000 "I understand small business growth. I was one." New York Daily News, Feb. 19, 2000 "The senator has got to understand if he's going to have he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road." To reporters in Florence, S.C., Feb. 17, 2000 "If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign." Hilton Head, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000 "How do you know if you don't measure if you have a system that simply suckles kids through?" Explaining the need for educational accountability, Beaufort, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000 "We ought to make the pie higher." South Carolina Republican Debate, Feb. 15, 2000 "I've changed my style somewhat, as you know. I'm less I pontificate less, although it may be hard to tell it from this show. And I'm more interacting with people." Meet The Press, Feb. 13, 2000 "I think we need not only to eliminate the tollbooth to the middle class, I think we should knock down the tollbooth." Nashua, N.H., as quoted by Gail Collins, New York Times, Feb. 1, 2000 "The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case." Pella, Iowa, as quoted in the San Antonio Express News, Jan. 30, 2000 "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000 "This is Preservation Month. I appreciate preservation. It's what you do when you run for president. You gotta preserve." Speaking during Perseverance Month" at Fairgrounds Elementary School in Nashua, N.H. As quoted in the Los Angeles Times, Jan. 28, 2000 "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." Greater Nashua, N.H., Chamber of Commerce, Jan. 27, 2000 "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." At a South Carolina oyster roast, as quoted in the Financial Times, Jan. 14, 2000 "There needs to be debates, like we're going through. There needs to be townhall meetings. There needs to be travel. This is a huge country." Larry King Live, Dec. 16, 1999 "The important question is, How many hands have shaked?" Answering a question about why he hasn't spent more time in NewHampshire, In the New York Times, Oct. 23, 1999 "Keep good relations with the Grecians." Quoted in the Economist, June 12, 1999 Need anyone say more?
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Crazy151drinker
We used to make plastic army men in the States. I guess there are those on here who want to keep low paying idiotic jobs that do nothing keep our country a world leader. Who needs hi-tech companies like Lockheed, or Cisco when we can just make plastic toys.
I take it then Six, you and your fellow commies on this board only buy American products right? You dont shop at Walmart, Target, Kmart, or Ikea right? You own a HUMVEE because it has the highest percentage of American made parts. You dont own any thing made from Honda, Toyota, Acura, Mercedes, or VW right?? EVERYTHING you own is Made in America right?? Because if you ONLY buy American you will Gaurentee that those JOBS stay here. If you buy ANYTHING imported you are supporting those "Job Stealing Companies" that you bitch about. So unless you ONLY buy American, quit your whining.
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Lewis
Crazy151Drinker, honey, take a deep breath ... that's it ... put the down and just relax. It's gonna be OK ...
You're much too overloaded with your black-and-white thinking! Now ask yourself: black/white; white/black. Does that remind you of any propaganda in your past? Hmmmmm?
Come to Daddy!