Why I May Vote for Kerry (page 5)

dubla

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George Bush was openly looking, not for justice or prevention, but at finding a way to tie the attacks into Iraq and therefore justify his long standing wish to take military action against Iraq.

was the president the only one tying iraq to terrorism? heres an interesting quote(bold/italic mine):

"Iraq may not be the war on terror itself, but it is critical to the outcome of the war on terror, and therefore any advance in Iraq is an advance forward in that..." -- John Kerry

then theres this quote, which is slightly off-topic, but i believe its fitting to show it here:

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John Kerry

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ThiChi

Xandar:

What double standards, using the information the Heinz' Fat Cats spew out, are you a slave to their mantra?.

Sure, they are using Smoke & Mirrors to cover their agenda. Even if your claim is true (which it is not), why has not Kerry used his leverage with Heinz to stand against this outsourcing issue? Here are the facts to show who is really running the show...

THE KETCHUP MAFIA PAYING FOR KERRY CAMPAIGN

Politically hot because Presidential hopeful John Kerry is married to the Heinz money - Teresa Heinz Kerry.

The League of Conservation Voters (LCV) has formally endorsed John Kerry for Democratic Party Presidential Nominee.

Teresa Heinz Kerry's foundations have given nearly a million dollars in recent years to the League and the environmental groups whose executives sit on the League's 24-member Board of Directors:

Natural Resources Defense Council - John Adams (LCV Board )
Wilderness Society - William Meadows III (LCV Board)
Environmental Defense - Fred Krupp (LCV Board)
West Harlem Environmental Action - Peggy Shepard (LCV Board)

Here's the non-profit Heinz foundation's Kerry for President high dollar scorecard:

Direct grants to League of Conservation Voters, 1993-2001: $ 57,300 .
Grants to NRDC: 2001- 2003 : $5 6 ,000
Grants to Wilderness Society: 2003 - $50,000 (1996: $56,350 , cumulative total $106,350)
Grants to Environmental Defense: 2001-2003 - $601,000 (1992-2000 - $2,846,819, cumulative total, $3,447,819)
Grants to West Harlem Environmental Action's Peggy Shepard: 2003 - $250,000.

That looks like $964,650 in recent years and about $4 million in the last dozen years. That's a lot of political clout.

It's made headlines, but not with all those numbers:

NEW YORK POST: JOHN'S ECO-PALS GOT WIFE'S GREENBACKING
By DEBORAH ORIN and BRIAN BLOMQUIST

F ebruary 10, 2004 -- A n environmental group that has run TV ads boosting Democrat John Kerry yesterday acknowledged getting funds from a foundation headed by his wealthy wife, Teresa - but denied that played any role.

The League of Conservation Voters endorsed Kerry on Jan. 24 - in 2000 it waited to back Al Gore until April when he was the certain nominee.

LCV political director Mark Longabaugh said the group got $57,300 from the Heinz Family Foundation - headed by Mrs. Kerry who is the widow of ketchup heir John Heinz - from 1993 to 2001, including a $2,500 personal contribution from her in 2000.

He said the group's endorsement "was made on the merits of John Kerry's record - he has a 96 percent LCV voting record" and added that LCV so far has spent "six figures" on TV ads to promote Kerry's candidacy but none of that was money from his wife.

Mrs. Kerry's net worth is estimated at over $500 million but the law bars her from donating more than $4,000 to her husband's campaign.

Yeah, sure.

maybesbabies

Yeah, Kerry and his damn flip-flops! Good thing Bush doesn't do that.......

patio34

Hi MaybesBabies!

Thanks for that site---I'll look into it a lot more!

Pat

maybesbabies

Hey patio! Just couldn't go away without putting in my 2 cents, I don't come here much anymore, but this one caught my eye!

Xander

What double standards, using the information the Heinz' Fat Cats spew out, are you a slave to their mantra?.
Sure, they are using Smoke & Mirrors to cover their agenda. Even if your claim is true (which it is not), why has not Kerry used his leverage with Heinz to stand against this outsourcing issue? Here are the facts to show who is really running the show...

Actually, ThiChi, my source is 'www.snopes.com' - a site dedicated to debunking urban legends, even if they do have a slightly conservative lean most the time. They just don't like disinformation, there. They have a lot of stuff debunking the various anti-Bush claims, if you are interested.

As to your 'anti-Kerry' agenda....I'm sorry, but the simple fact of the matter is that Kerry, regardless of WHAT else he might have done in his past, or his positions on issues, or HOW much money he married into, never gave orders to the US military to conquer and occupy a foreign country unprovoked.

In my book, that's an unforgivable offense regardless of anything else and why whoever is likely to defeat Bush will get my vote.

maybesbabies

Well put, Xander. Toss all else aside, and that one offense is enough for me as well. He should have been impeached long ago, IMO.

Crazy151drinker

never gave orders to the US military to conquer and occupy a foreign country unprovoked

Errr well technically he did order troops in Vietnam...............

Either way your statement is invalid because Kerry isnt President, and thus had no Authority to. If he had been, there is a good chance he would have ordered the Invasion because Kerry believed that there were WMD in Iraq.

ThiChi

"...never gave orders to the US military to conquer and occupy a foreign country unprovoked."

Yea, Kerry only voted to allow the President to go into Iraq. I am sure if you had your way, Sadamm would still be in power......

Mulan

From an interview with Ron Reagan on Larry King two nights ago, which is how I feel:

KING: Can I gather from that, that you will not support this president?

REAGAN: No, I won't.

KING: Will you support his opponent?

REAGAN: I will vote for whoever the viable candidate is who can defeat George W. Bush, yes.

KING: So, you might vote for Ralph Nader?

REAGAN: If he were a viable candidate I might.

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