Excellant post, Cass. I hope everyone reads it.
Abortion...
by Lostreality 215 Replies latest jw friends
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bisous
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I agree that rape is a horrible crime, but its just as horrible to destroy the unborn. The unborn child was not responsible for its own existence so why should it be destroyed? I do believe that killing a fetus because of personal interests is murder. The right to live is not based on anybody's personal interests.
I fully support your right to this opinion and the very SECOND you are impregnated, I will stand by your right to choose.
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Yizuman
I fully support your right to this opinion and the very SECOND you are impregnated, I will stand by your right to choose.
What about the baby's choice? Obviously they have none since they're at the mercy of the mom wanting to kill the baby. Yiz "Mommy, what's a safe abortion?"
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Cassiline
"A one week old infant is diagnosed with Leukemia and the infant needs a bone marrow transplant. After checking available donors it is determined that only the child's FATHER has a good match. The father says "NO!" ... Should the state be able to compel the Father of the baby (with threats of fines and prison) to submit and have some of his bone marrow extracted to save his baby's life?" Should a male parent be subject to the same demand that he be forced to use his body to keep his child alive? What if he didn't want the pregnancy in the first place? What if he is estranged from the mother (and the baby, too)? What if he has religious objections to any kind of transfusion? Aside from the moral issue, should the state hold the father to the same standard as the mother? Should any exception be allowed?
Yiz
Should the above be made law? If you fathered a child who you had no interest in and did not want the mother in your life or the child, it's ok to make it law you should save that baby right? What if he needed a heart transplant or kidney? You are of course willing to give your kidney or heart correct? If government forced you to give your life for that of your child.... that's fair right? Or should you have a choice in the matter?
Cassi
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truthseeker1
What about the baby's choice?
Well, the baby has no choice.
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Cassiline
What about the baby's choice?
Well, the baby has no choice.And you all want the mother not to have a chioce as well, let me say again those who became pregnant without consent. I would truly like a man here to address the points about forced kidney donation or any other body part to save a child who he may have fathered or perhpas he did not father. A child he wants nothing to do with or perhaps he loves but does not WANT the government to force him into a decision. This may sound horrible but until a man has to become pregnant, and does so through force, that of incest or rape I do not believe you should have a say in the matter unless it is your own childs life you are fighting for. You are not asked to put your life on the line for another, why should a woman be forced to? Cassi
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Yizuman
Should the above be made law? If you fathered a child who you had no interest in and did not want the mother in your life or the child, it's ok to make it law you should save that baby right? What if he needed a heart transplant or kidney? You are of course willing to give your kidney or heart correct? If government forced you to give your life for that of your child.... that's fair right? Or should you have a choice in the matter?
Well if I was selfish and didn't give a crap about anyone except myself and if I said no to a bone marrow transplant that would save the baby, I would expect to be forced to do so and it should be a law only for relatives, not non-related blood. I'm 40 years old and the baby has a new start, wayyyyyyyy much younger than me, so the baby should and must have a higher priority than me because the baby is a helpless infant. So in age differences, the baby is more important than me and should have a fighting chance at life. OTH, if it was my choice to give up my life in order to save the baby, yes I would do it, no matter what. I would die happy knowing the baby would have a better chance at life and hope the child would have a much better life than I ever did. Yiz
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Yizuman
This may sound horrible but until a man has to become pregnant, and does so through force, that of incest or rape I do not believe you should have a say in the matter unless it is your own childs life you are fighting for.
Unfortunantly, in the court of law these days, a man has no say in the matter and if a man sues to save the baby's life from being butchered in a abortion mill, he'll lose every time, even if the woman is his wife. Would you say that a prom queen years ago who gave birth a baby in the toilet, strangled the baby, toss the baby in the trash can has the right to do because it's her baby and she can do what she will? A lot of human beings are selfish and unfortunantly that doesn't help alot of babies who are being killed because they're considered inconvience, even if it's from rape and incest, the baby is not at fault because of what happened, but the mother kills the baby out of revenge because of what happened to her, that's just wrong. Yiz
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Cassiline
I would expect to be forced to do so and it should be a law only for relatives, not non-related blood.
It would not just stop at blood if that decision every were made law and you know it.
Ok great! Tomorrow the Supreme Court decides that you have to give your kidneys, heart or whatever else to your child to say his life..... and your going to tell me you would not fight it? How about an eye, you only need one to see! Part of your liver, your small instestine? Please remember these are major surgeries and YOU very well could die while helping this child.
Why only a law for non relatives? How would that be fair to a baby who was just born and none of his family are a match? It's not his fault he exists. Would you fault all those selfish people out there not willing to die for a child they did not want in the first place?
Cassi
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Cassiline
but the mother kills the baby out of revenge of what happened to her, that's just wrong.
Revenge? Yiz.... you don't know anything about rape and the feelings attached to such with a comment such as this. If you have been the victim of rape I truly am sorry