What was Jesus's real name?

by gumby 55 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    Here is the text from the Sybilline Oracles:

    "There will again be [i.e. in the eschatological future] one exceptional man from the sky
    who stretched out his hands on the fruitful wood,
    the best of the Hebrews, who will one day cause the sun to stand
    [i.e. like Joshua did],
    speaking with fair speech and holy lips.
    Blessed one, no longer weary your spirit in your breast,
    divinely born, wealthy, sole-desired flower,
    good light, holy shoot, beloved plant
    ." (SibOr 5:156-162)

    Later we also read: "For a blessed man came from the expanses of heaven, with a scepter in his hands which God gave him, and he gained sway over all things well, and gave back the wealth to all the good, which previous men had taken. He destroyed every city from its foundations with much fire, and burned nations of mortals who were formerly evildoers" (SibOr 5:414-419). This Messiah figure, who restores the kingdom of Israel by destroying the cities and kingdoms of the Gentiles, is described very much in the language of Joshua, who in the conquest of Canaan also destroyed cities with fire and who also with God's power "caused the sun to stand still".

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Leolaia:

    That was exactly THE summary of evidence I was desperately looking for about one month ago!

    Unfortunately the link doesn't work though: is there a bibliographical reference?

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    I fixed the link, Narkissos....It should work now.

  • TresHappy
    TresHappy

    No jokes, here...was it Elohim???

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Thanks Leolaia.

    LOL @ TresHappy: Elohim Jr. seems fine (in a Trinitarian perspective at least).

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Grumblestiltskin:

    "Son of Man" was a safe ground for Jesus....but wasn't his name his brothers and sisters called him.

    I can appreciate your intent but, mate, but the expression was a whole lot more significant than that.

    SP:

    No, I merely indicated my flippancy to sa question that was, well, not quite right. In the words of Thomas, "My Lord" and "My God".

    Ozzie, (only slightly sozzled)

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Actually, I'd go for "Bob". It works just fine for me

    Otherwise I have a preponderance for Yahshuah.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Bwian?

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    ROFLMAO @ Didier

    He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!!!

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan
    Since the name Jesus (Yeshua or Yeshu in Hebrew, ....Ioshu in Greek,...( source of the English spelling) , originally was a title (meaning ?saviour?, derived from ?Yahweh Saves?)......what was Jesus's real name? Did he have one? He was called Rabbi to denote their teacher, he was called master.....yet "Jesus" seemed to be his given name. His parents surely called him by something other than a title.

    Yes it does appear that at an early point in Christian origins the name Jesus was a name/title of the expected ONE, rather than a personal name.

    It appears from these quotes that there is a general tendency toward the idea that people should have a type of 'nothing' name - it may go someway toward explaining the jw tendency to identify 'jehovah' as a name.

    Do your own names have no meaning to you? Have you got a nothing personal name ?

    and he will be called Emanuel

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