Durn it! When I saw the title of this thread... the first thing that came to mind was...
"Bob"
But I see someone else has beaten me to it.
Regards,
Jim TX
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Durn it! When I saw the title of this thread... the first thing that came to mind was...
"Bob"
But I see someone else has beaten me to it.
Regards,
Jim TX
Jim Tex......I knew he had a cousin named "billy" but didn't know jesus went by Bob
Gumby....The fragment of an early Christian hymn preserved in Philippians 2:6-11 implies that it was in his resurrection and glorification that the Son was bestowed the name "Jesus" (and not, presumably, during his earthly life):
Leolaia, how do you explain the gospels that use the name jesus throughout? Matt. 1:21 for example?
Ozmeister, I realise "Son of Man" has a deeper meaning, .....but what was Jesus real name? Was it Jesus Jesus?
Gumby
Gumby:
So how was jail?
The vote appears to be three for "Bob", so far
Edited to add: Wasn't his cousin John Waine Bobbit?
Mornin LT.
I'll tell you a secret before anyone gets up this early....least in the U.S.
I don't have a friggin clue what and if he had another name other than the title "Jesus"......and I told everyone here I knew his real name. I'm a damn heathen, lyin, indian giver, apostate bastard from hell! Soon as you read this....I'm editing this post so's no one will think I'm a damn lyin loser.
*paces the floor*
Gumfibber
I think his real name is Dammit.
In the book of Gumbazaiah 10:69 it says, "And Mary, becoming increasingly incensed at the amount of bugs running around the tent says, Dammit, will you stop resurrecting all those bugs I keep squishing!!!"
Also in Gumbrews 6:66 Joseph states, "Dammit, will you stop walking on water, Y'er freaking everyone out!!!"
ohiocowboy-who hides for fear of lightning...
Gumby:
Just read it. I hope your editing time hasn't expired
I see you've got that "pacing the floor in small circles" thang sorted. Jail will do that for ya.
Remember the adage: "Liars wont inherit mean heaven where all the cookies are!"
Gumby,
All four canonical Gospels are ultimately dependent on Mark, which is usually dated around 70 but could easily be dated down to the end of the 1st century or the beginning of the 2nd. In any case, from 20 to 50 years after Paul.
The advocates of the "Christ myth" (e.g. Doherty) suggest that Mark makes an artificial historicisation of the Hellenistic mythical "Christ Jesus". Their argument is that Mark is obviously influenced by Hellenistic and Pauline theology and that all his stories on Jesus bear the mark of literary influence (from the Greek OT, from contemporary hellenistic stories about gods and heroes and from some stories of other historical characters, most of which can be found in Josephus). This is a strong case.
But IMO this never can be completely proven. There is still the possibility that Mark also builds on some historical traditions about a 1st century Galilean Jesus (which ones?).
The true question, I think, is the original relationship between the traditions on Jesus as kept by judeo-Christians in opposition to Pauline theology, and the Hellenistic "Christ Jesus" myth. Did the latter evolve from the former? It would have occurred within a very short period of time and it is very unlikely. Is judeo-Christianity a reaction to Hellenistic theology, claiming a direct (the Pauline would say "fleshly") connection with the historicised hero while rejecting its original, mythical foundation? It's somewhat difficult to believe inasmuch as many Pauline texts (not only Galatians) refer to Jewish opponents who also seem to refer to Jesus (but, again, this might be a "Jesus/Savior" messianic expectation as well as a historical character).
So the possibility remains, in my opinion, that the two distincts threads have been followed both separately and in reaction to each other: one as a "historical Jesus" movement, another as a mystery cult.
Narkanswermeister....all I want to know is........what the heck the guys full name was. What did his dad call him?
I guess the gospel authors didn't think beyond a title when creating their godman. Why?
Gumby
Gumby:
I'm betting his dad called him LittleJoe
He never got a chance to call him by his full name coz he was never bad!
You just picked that name cuz it rhymes with yours, ya barstard!
Adam was the goodie two shoes of the Cartwrights...Little Joe was the arnry bastard.
Gumby