by gumby 87 Replies latest watchtower bible
Leolaia writes:
Jesus was typified not only by the paschal lamb but also the scapegoat that was sacrificed under the Law.
This is pretty interesting, coming from a guy who admonished his followers to separate the sheep from the goats.
And, yes, gumby, that's exactly what I'm saying, although it may not have been a lumberjack. A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do.
I can't believe that nobody brought up
Rom 12:1
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.D Dog
Typical answer from believer who cannot discuss the topic at hand. We're not talking about living sacrafices DD.....we're talking about a man who burned his daughter to appease the bible god and he didn't do squat to stop him. He accepted his burnt daughter and continued to bless this asshole of a man.
Gumby
What I always found hilarious about this account was who did he THINK was coming out to meet him? Wether he was going to kill them or just make them go off and be a nun who did he THINK he was sending off? He was upset that his daughter came out first but he had to have SOMEONE in mind right? If you have a wife and one daughter thats two people... and the daughter runs out and your pissed who were you HOPING to get rid of?
I guess maybe they had servents that could have run out first but I always took it that he really wanted to get rid of his wife!
Typical response from a JW who can't see that God is above the law in the old testament, but, is in subjection to the law in the new. Romans 12:1 is right on with Leolaia's comment from page 1
Gumby
For your sake, I pray that He keeps blessing you too.
D Dog
The paradoxical, mysterious appeal of death and self-sacrifice is certainly one of the most essential and universal components of what we call "religion" (I started a thread on this, entitled "Amor mortis" long ago, Frankiespeakin "revived" it recently). Human sacrifice -- especially a firstborn or unique child sacrifice -- is one of its "highest" expressions (in that sense, what we would call "barbaric" is not opposed to "civilised": sacrificing one's child is nothing "natural" or "primitive", it implies a highly complex cultural and symbolic system). Every civilisation toys with the same kinds of symbols: from the Christian "cross piety" to the romantic "stirb und wird", "die and become," for instance, there is not so long a distance. Our conscience of, and complicity with death, is the very foundation of our symbolical system.
Typical response from a JW who can't see that God is above the law in the old testament, but, is in subjection to the law in the new. Romans 12:1 is right on with Leolaia's comment from page 1Gumby
For your sake, I pray that He keeps blessing you too.
DD,
Now there's good reasoning. God makes life so sacred that crushin a guys nutsack brings severe penalties, yet this god would have a man actually sacrifice his daughter...and burn her. Now that's a smart god I gotta tell ya. Why would this god NEED this type of an act? Why? Nothing else would have sufficed? How did mom and the rest of the family feel who loved her. How did SHE feel?
Btw.....I'd prefer a dub answer in some cases over a hellfire god.
Gumby
Gumby under the gum tree,
Jehovah (tribal god) always did his dirty work with more class than other tribal gods. Baal/Molech neighbor god's of the Isrealites, tended to be more aggressive. They didn't mess around with one or two child sacrifices they demanded wholesale slaughter.
Huge fires burning, consuming, many children at once. So you can clearly see Jehovah was the better choice...well if you were a jew....ya had no choice. Oh well.
Jw's/Christians really get no choice either. They just go along with the current priests (GB) directives and offer up themselves, sons, daughters, parents, cousins, thier entire lives to the the SACRED COW ...Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.....willingly throwing thier lives on the alter of its hideous service.
Burned up and spit out by the organization. Yes Jehovah loves human sacrifice.
Now lets get DD to admit it!
Danny
Boy DD,
You'd better give up and join the ranks of the " its better to hate the OT. WT God" that way he'll go away.
Kinda of like the "no-Homers club"
Dannybear bastard........nice to hear from you bud. I need to give you a call.
Huge fires burning, consuming, many children at once. So you can clearly see Jehovah was the better choice...well if you were a jew....ya had no choice. Oh well.
Well I guess that depends on who's fire was the hottest....molechs/baal....or Jehovers. I'd rather be fried instantly than have too little BTU's to get the job done. Barbecue style is waaaaaaay to slow for this boy. I like how Jehover done it. He had fire come out of nowhere and just consumed them. I'm not sure if it was a flamethrower type of incineration, or like a nuclear blast Jehover used.
I don't know if Jehovah was the best choice if you had to be burned to death and had to pick which god you'd like to do the work. Sodom prolly wasn't a picnic with fire and sulpher rainin down like cats and dogs. Too bad they didn't have umbrellas back then. They coulda thwarted ol' Jehovers plans eh?
Gumby
