WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE?

by Mary 95 Replies latest jw friends

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    Brooke:

    As for your Children it is easier said then done.Bring them into this world is one thing. Taking them out is another. It would be a very hard choice for anyone to make. Not saying one is better than the other. Talking about your wishes is one thing. But making that choice for my child would be hard for me. I speak only of my own opinion and from my heart. So yes it is all good on paper and words but put in the situation is different and very real.

    I don't think I ever said that such a decision would be easy.

    However, such decisions do need to be made, in any case; and being that decisions that involve life and death are usually the most difficult, those very decisions are most often put off until the critical moment, when objectivity is most clouded.

    As some examples:

    1) How many of us have a fully executed Will? I have an outdated one.

    2) How many of us have a fully updated life insurance policy? I have an outdated one.

    3) How many of us have some kind of medical directive? I have an outdated one.

    Bottom line: If I was involved in a life-threatening/ending automobile accident tomorrow, my dear wife would have to fight through the courts, possibly for years, to clear up this mess.

    I submit that this scenario is "very real," and one which deserves further thought.

    Respectfully,

    Craig

  • Oroborus21
    Oroborus21

    House is voting right now. Decision (probably to allow parents to take the case to federal court) will probably pass.

    -Eduardo

  • talesin
    talesin

    I speak only of my own opinion and from my heart. So yes it is all good on paper and words but put in the situation is different and very real. Brooke
    Things can change as it really happens.

    Only one absolute certainty is possible to man, namely that at any given moment the feeling which he has exists.

    Thomas H. Huxley
    English biologist (1825 - 1895)
  • Country Girl
    Country Girl

    House passes Schiavo bill

    Bush signs bill into law

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/20/schiavo/index.html

  • Mary
    Mary
    More importantly, is that they seem to be sustituting their own feelings and desires for those of Terry......In short they are being extremely selfish. True, they may be concerned for Terry but they also are being selfish. Period. I truly do not know of any person, no matter how much I love, that I would want to submit them to a lifetime of "life" like that.

    BINGO! You hit the nail right on the head. Who the hell would let their child suffer in a living hell like this for 15 years with the prospect of another 40 years? Sure as hell not me. Would anyone here let their dog or cat stay alive if they were severely brain-damaged? Of course not, it woule be inhumane. But of course we've got all these bleeding hearts who think that any life, even life as a vegetable, overrides common sense.

    Does anyone actually believe that Terri would WANT to live like this???

  • whyamihere
    whyamihere

    Craig aka onacruse,

    I completely agree with you. I was just pointing out that I understand why her Mother wants to fight for her. I would do the same. If my child ask not to live in a Veg state as much as I would want to take care of he or she and would want he or she to be alive that is his or her own choice. I would do what was asked.

    There is going to be many different opinions on this matter. The choice should be Terry's. If she asked not to live like that then that would be her god given right to live her life as she would want it.

    I would ask to die because living like a Veg is no way to go through life. Also I would want people to remember me for me.

    I am sorry if I gave you the wrong impression of me. I agree with everyone. To die is a part of living. Living is a beautiful chance we get. However Terry is not living she has already died. Her body is just here going on.

    Reading all of this makes me want to update my will.

    Brooke

  • Doubtfully Yours
    Doubtfully Yours

    I think she should be helped to die with dignity and immediacy, instead of just disconnecting her feeding tube and watching her die inch by inch.

    Immediate and painless is the type of death I support for her. I don't support in keeping her alive a minute longer in this awful vegetative state.

    Do you know how much money patients such as her is costing tax payers here in the US? Too much! And for what? There's no hope for recovery, so let her and thousands more like her die with dignity and painfree already!

    Dying with dignity, immediate and painfree is what I support in her case and other similar cases for which there's proven no hope at all for recovery.

    DY

  • Yizuman
    Yizuman

    Michael did not remember this supposed request (be allowed to die) until years after Terri's initial injuries when a cash settlement was awarded to her, a settlement he would stand to inherit.

    Why couldn't he remember her request long before then? He just wants her money. There's a motive for wanting her dead

    Yiz

  • TresHappy
    TresHappy

    Schiavo situation hits home


    Palatka woman's son was in same state Woman saw her son through same thing

    By Noreen Marcus

    KNIGHT RIDDER NEWSPAPERS

    FORT LAUDERDALE - If there's one phrase in the English language that riles Betty Clough, it is this: "persistent vegetative state."

    Doctors attached that label to her son Charles "Chucky" Clough Jr. after he was struck by lightning at T.Y. Park in Hollywood 22 years ago, when he was 15.

    Chucky Clough died March 8 in his mother's mobile home in Palatka. Because he never walked or talked after the accident and had to be fed through a tube every four hours, because his frail body finally gave out, it is possible to make a direct connection between the accident and his death.

    But according to Betty Clough and the rest of his family, there is more to his story. Between the accident and his death there was a remarkable journey.

    "We were blessed every day with him," said his sister Beverly Crews. "He was really an inspiration, because God could have taken him a long time ago."

    So it's not hard to guess where Betty Clough comes out on the question of Terri Schiavo, the Clearwater woman also described by doctors as being in a "persistent vegetative state."

    "I hate that," she said this week. "Even if they're in a coma, they're still there; they're not in a vegetative state. They've got to come up with some new words."

    As his mother and sister describe Chucky after the accident, he never left his community or family, but he became the still center of each.

    Before the accident he was a typical teen who loved pranks and hunting - only what he could eat - and chatting up the girls. He planned to join the Army when he graduated from South Broward High. That summer he was tanned and buff from working out with weights.

    During a family outing on Labor Day 1983, a sudden storm came up, sending Chucky, his nephew, sister and brother-in-law to huddle under a big oak tree. His sister was pregnant, and when water started dripping on her stomach, "He said, 'Trade places with me,'" Crews recalled. Seconds after the switch, lightning singled him out.

    Medicaid covered a lot of the bills, but not everything. South Broward cheerleaders washed cars to raise money; women from the American Cancer Society came by weekly with "Chuck pads" for his incontinence. An elderly woman on a fixed income sent the family a $5 check once a month.

    "It was a really good support system," Crews said. The extra money bought a special tub, an inflatable mattress to prevent bedsores and a therapeutic chair to support Chucky's curved spine so he could look out the window.

    For five years he lay in a coma. Then one day when two of his sisters were standing by his bed, mimicking a friend, he laughed.

    Laughter fed the family's hope. "We used to have dreams about Chucky just waking up," Crews said. "He would get up and stretch and say, 'Mom, I'm hungry, come feed me.'"

    In 1989, soon after that first laugh, the family moved to Palatka, their previous home, near St. Augustine. Chucky's room was the activity center of the house, where Crews' children took their toys and everybody went to tell jokes. Betty Clough is a Jehovah's Witness, and the Witnesses would meet in Chucky's room for Bible study.

    He took it all in, they were sure.

    "I think Chucky understood everything that was being said to him," said his mother. "He just had no way of responding."

    Clough said Terri Schiavo's plight breaks her heart. "She had a lot of the responses Chucky had."

    And she identifies with Schiavo's parents, who are fighting her husband to control her fate. "You never give up hope. You don't know what God's got planned," Clough said.

    A few weeks ago Chucky Clough seemed even quieter than usual. He didn't resist when his sister and caregiver Marcia Gall washed his face, the way he always had. On the morning of March 8, between his 4 and 8 a.m. feedings, he slipped away. He was 37.

    In addition to his mother and sisters Marcia Gall and Beverly Crews, of Palatka, Chucky Clough is survived by his father, Charles Clough Sr., of Washington State; sisters Cynthia Nicol of Interlocken and Valerie Thompson of Venus; brothers Dereck Clough of Hollywood and John Clough of Palatka; and many nieces and nephews.

    Services have already been conducted

  • NewLight2
    NewLight2

    Judge denies request to restore Schiavo's feeding tube

    Attorneys for parents to petition appellate court

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/22/schiavo/index.html

    TAMPA, Florida
    (CNN) -- A federal
    judge on Tuesday
    denied an emergency
    request to reinsert a
    feeding tube for Terri
    Schiavo, a
    brain-damaged woman
    at the center of a
    national legal battle
    over her life.

    Attorneys for Schiavo's
    parents will file an
    appeal at the 11th U.S.
    Circuit Court of Appeals
    in Atlanta, Georgia.

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