KM article -tip minimum 15% (page 5)

HadEnuf

Good Grief...at first glance I thought this topic said we had to TIP MINIMUS 15%!!!

Need new glasses I guess...but I might be willing to tip minimus 15%....maybe even 20%, depending on the service he supplies.

Cathy L.

freedom96

I have no problem tipping if the service is good. If the service is great, then I leave more, and I personally thank the server.

If the service really sucked, and it was due to the server being a jerk, then very little tip is left. I think that is more effective than leaving none.

dothemath

So should you tip 15% of the bill before tax is added on, or after?

If you go by the total bill (tax included) you're adding a tip on for the gst (in Canada anyway).

If you're good at it, waiting tables is a good money, depending on the restaurant you work in. I did it for 8 years straight in Kansas and then inbetween jobs here in Texas. But I was good at it, worked only in the best restaurants, and made good money. It took me about 4 years climbing the corporate ladder trying to make what I made waiting tables.

I know things may be different from country to country, but some things to keep in mind in the US...

One, most restaurant servers (sit down establishments, not fast food) only get paid around $2 or $3 at most. What most patrons don't understand is that servers are REQUIRED BY THE IRS to claim at least 8% of their sales. NOT TIPS - THEIR SALES!!! So let's say you go out to eat and your ticket is $50. The waitress MUST claim you tipped her $4, whether you did or not.

Two, most restaurants also make servers tip their bartenders and busboys, whether or not they did anything for you. So if I have to tip the bar 2% (typical) and then the busyboy 1% (typical), I'm left with $1 of your cheapskate ass.

If I get really bad service, I tip 8% minimum. I've been known to tip 25-50%, depending on how hard the server worked at making my dining experience exceptional.

Euphemism

So should you tip 15% of the bill before tax is added on, or after?

Tip amounts are customarily based on pretax bill.

Nathan Natas

One has to wonder when Jehovah's Holy Spit will get its head out of its ass and step into the 20th century... (yes, 20th, they are still clueless about all things moderne)

When will Jehovah's skateboard-like organization discover the concept of a MINIMUM tip? For example, I never leave less than a $2 tip, even if my bill is much less - or much much less - than $10. I'm not going to count out twenty two and a half cents to tip for a $1.50 cup of coffee (and I'm not going to whip out my IBM 670 mainframe calulator to figure a 17.5% tip I can figure a 20% tip in my head in two seconds). The waitress has to work just as much, so she gets just as much tip.

There was a sister in my congregation years ago who worked as a waitress and who influenced my philosophhy on tipping. When I see a waitress, I think of Judy. I learned from her that her wages were intentionally set low because tips were an anticipated part of her compensation. In fact, at that time - years ago, probably the same today - the IRS just assumed that if your pay was, $X a year as a waitress, that you would pay tax on $X+ on the assumption that your tips averaged out to a certain amount.

One thing I have noticed is that the more liberal a person's politics are, the CHEAPER they tend to be when it comes to personally demonstrating their compassion for their fellow man. I suppose it is just easier to figure out that your job is done once you've decided what EVERYONE ELSE should do.

There are circumstances when I leave no tip, but the service has to be pretty offensive to justify that.

I think I'm just swell... or should that be swollen?

Country_Woman

Nathan, I know that you don't want to rush them, but to give them a century less ....

KM article -tip minimum 15%