Generation of 1914 gone!

by Gill 57 Replies latest jw friends

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  nicolaou

  In the summer of 1999, some of us may have been at the 'Gods Prophetic Word' convention. The convention speaker stated that, "SOME OF THE REMNANT WILL STILL BE ALIVE ON EARTH AT THE START OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION"
  The Watchtower have tied themselves to a new point in time, the point at which the ingathering of the 'anointed' was completed. According to many Watchtower publications that was in 1935. The Watchtower are effectively saying that the Great Tribulation will start within the lifetime of the last individuals to have been anointed!
  
  It has been said that there will always be the fanatic JW who declares himself anointed and that therfore the situation can go on indefinately, it's a good point. However, if asked , would the Governing Body say they expect any of the remnant to prove unfaithful and thus need replacing? No! So do they expect the Great Tribulation to start within the lifetime of the remaining 8,570 members of the 'anointed'? Yes!

  And remember, the ingathering of the anointed was supposedly completed, with just a few exceptions, in 1935. Even if these ones were as young as 15 when they got baptised, that would make them at least 85 years old today - many much, much older!

  Instead of being tied to 1914, we are now tied to the lifespan of 8570 individuals who were in their teens in 1935.

  Now, check out the Jan 15 2000 Watchtower;

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  w00 1/15 p. 13 "Keep on the Watch" ***

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  Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is dwindling, though some will evidently still be on earth when the great tribulation begins. Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over the years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller. Yet, referring to the great tribulation, Jesus stated: "Unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short." (Matthew 24:21, 22) Evidently, then, some of Christ’s "chosen ones" will still be on earth when the great tribulation begins.

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  w00 1/15 p. 13 "Keep on the Watch" *** Footnote

  In the parable of the sheep and the goats, the Son of man arrives in his glory in the period of the great tribulation and sits in judgment. He judges people on the basis of whether they gave support to Christ’s anointed brothers. This standard for judgment would be meaningless if at the time of judgment, all of Christ’s brothers had long since left the earthly scene.—Matthew 25:31-46.
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  xjwms

  Wow blondie:

  So many at that age? How can it be?

  However, I agree, ... live each day, to the best that you can. Live a rich rewarding life.
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  steve2

  The final sealing of the remaining ones of 144,000 anointed ones draws near

  Trouble is, the boys from Brooklyn are always raising the ceiling.

  Here it comes...no, wait, it's coming now...this time we really mean it....hold on, don't get impatient...some have lost faith...it's a sure sign it's now...God's truth...it's coming...ad infinitum
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  Gill

  steve2 - As regards to the brooklyn boys moving the ceiling, they continually do. And yet, this never clicks with any die hards in the organization. They still take in the lie that they do not serve Jehovah with a time limit in mind. They miss the point that they are doing all that unbearable door to door work to warn people that Armageddon is 'near at hand'. The twisted logic continues.

  Also, the WTBTS points out that 'time' is measured differently by God and yet they still claim that Armageddon is about due....now.....any minute...any day....is no longer just around the corner but just ahead....
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  willyloman

  Steve: Brilliant analysis of "the Watchtower franchise" and its never ending stream of fabricated philosophy designed to be swallowed whole by people obsessed with the system's iniquities.

  It's important to keep in mind that the vast majority of dubs will NEVER see the light and "do the math," as one poster put it. That's because dubs attract people who are convinced the world is going to hell in a handbasket and are looking for easy answers to difficult questions about why life is the way it is and (some) people are so damned obnoxious, cruel or evil. Dubs give them the simple answer and wrap it all up in "the bible," and that legitimizes their collective feeling that the world is all bad, all the time.

  Dub religon is one big bitch fest. That's why we were drawn to it, and why we stayed so long. It is a rush to think you know all the answers and don't have to get involved in making the world a better place because somebody else will take care of that, eventually. Some open their eyes and pull on the emergency cord and get off this train to hell, but most stay for the ride, slumped in their seats, nodding their heads, drifting off to sleep and dream.

  How else would you explain that when the WTS dropped one of its biggest doctrinal bombshells of all time in November 1995, dropping the critical "generation" teaching, the "sheep" barely bleated? Half the dubs at your local KH don't even know that's changed, and the rest don't care because they don't really give a sh*% about all that doctrinal stuff anyway.
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  Gill

  You're talking about me and 'mine', Willyloman!

  And you're smack on target to. I was one of those stupid sheep when the new light on the 1914 generation came out. I remember our family discussing it, for a few moments at a barbeque.

  The end conclusion was, 'well, no matter how long it takes for the end to come, whether we're right or wrong, there's no better way of living than being a JW,' munch, munch on another piece of lamb and slurp on another glass of wine.

  If I remember, the next time I discussed this was with my huband's Grandfather who was seriously distressed by the New Light. He said 'But I was never supposed to die.' He was 81 at the time of this inspiration from God. 'Why have they changed it?'

  As if it was ever in their lying, deceitful hands in the first place!
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  Erich

  Blondie:

  "By 2034, they should be all gone, not too many people live to be 120 or older."

  That not absolutely sure. We do not know the progress in gen-therapy in the near future. If the first patents in gen-therapy expires in the next years (mainly Craig Venter`s) - this will push the progress in research and development wordwide. Maybe they will find new revolutionary anti-aging methods soon.

  E.
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  blondie

  Erich, I hope you know that I am just joking about the 2034 date.
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  blondie

  Millions (of JWs) now living will never die

  but now the WTS hidden message is

  Billions (of non JWs) now living will die and never live again
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  heathen

  I've seen some posters mention that the WTBTS is now trying to say that we are in the Great Tribulation and that it could last way longer than most think . Daniel does mention that it happens during the battle of the king of the north and south . If God did not intervene then no humans could survive . That's why it's my belief that the city of new jerusalem is actually the noahs ark that lands on earth during the conclusion and saves only the faithful and true . It's pretty clear in the bible that the dead are not resurrected until after the great day of God almighty . There is no dying and going to heaven as the WTBTS insists anyway but seems to think only 144k do it . Their dogma is just too convoluted to get a handle on . I think the question is , when did the gentile time end? The WTBTS claims 1914 or is it 1948 as most religionists seem to think ?