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who's been giving the public talks every Sunday
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Hibiscusfire
do JWs believe in dinosaurs?
by tsunami_rid3r 118 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Spook
Surely it takes more faith to believe that animals came from rocks than it does to believe in a loving Creator Who designed them.
Hib, It's hard for me to believe that you are actually serious about what you say. I want to detatch from my normal resistance to your posts to really put out a plea. How can folks like yourself and I get along and make something beautiful out of this life? It makes me deeply sad to constantly be confronted with these issues and get nowhere, not even getting answers to fair questions and challenges that are put to you. I don't want to cut you off or judge your intellectual capacity, yet I find such a muddle. So, my plea is to look at the impact of religious fundamentalism on the world, and let that motivate you to be open to considering disagreement. Really, I mean that this sort of stuff makes me want to cry, because I have no hope that peaceful, yet spirited debate will ever be able to resolve mankinds basic disagreements. I have no hope that democracy will do. I have no hope that anything but war is in the future, more pain and suffering. And nobody is coming to save us. Returning to my opposition. I am an atheist, and I don't believe animals came from rocks, or that humans flew out of monkey's asses. Look, YEC creationists believe humans were sculpted out of clay. You are the ones who believe we come from soil. I recommend you retract that statement. And while you're at it, look into the comparative mythology of the Lulla, and the appropriation of those eastern myths into the Hebrew tradition.
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hibiscusfire
Spook:
I am an atheist, and I don't believe animals came from rocks, or that humans flew out of monkey's asses
Why are you an atheist? Did your mother teach you about God at all?
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DannyBloem
Hibiscus,
About your post about the salinity of the oceans. I know this average figure you give. Can you give some proof that this is wrong. For example estimations of salt int he see, fresh water comming into the sea, salt exiting the sea etc, to back this up?
Also can you give more data about that magnetic change you talking about, and why that is not normal. Just only a statement does not really help.
If so I can see if it is proof indeed or not.
Danny
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DannyBloem
Oh and yes Hibiscusfire,
can you also answer the quesions about polor ice dating and color build up in tropical islands?
Danny
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Crumpet
Why are you an atheist? Did your mother teach you about God at all?
Hisbis - I am an ATHEIST because my parents DID teach me all about God.
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hibiscusfire
Danny:
About your post about the salinity of the oceans. I know this average figure you give. Can you give some proof that this is wrong. For example estimations of salt int he see, fresh water comming into the sea, salt exiting the sea etc, to back this up?
Well
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hibiscusfire
danny:
The salinity of the sea water:
Sea water is about a 3.49% solution of salt , or about 96.5% freshwater. The more saline, the denser the sea water .
As the range of salt concentration varies from about 3.2 to 3.8%, oceanographers, who refer to salt content as ' salinity ', express salt concentration as parts per thousand, making 34.9 parts-per-thousand (ppt) the average salinity.
Salinity changes the properties of water from that of pure water. As sea water evaporates the salt remains behind , only the freshwater is transferred from the ocean to the atmosphere, hence regions of excess evaporation , such as the subtropics tend to become salty, while the areas of excess rainfall become fresher .
The tropical belt, or Inter Tropical Convergence Zone is such an area. The ocean circulation acts to move lower salinity sea water into evaporative regions, and more saline water into humid regions , this is part of the hydrological cycle . The relative freshness of the Pacific Ocean surface water stands out.
Excess evaporation of the Atlantic and excess precipitation of the Pacific are balanced to some measure by an atmospheric flux of water vapor over Central America, amounting to 0.35 Sv. The Arctic Sea is very fresh, due to the enormous amount of river water that drains into it from the northern continents. The effects of ocean circulation are seen in the transfer of saline surface water into the northern North Atlantic . Cooling of this water leads to sinking and the formation of North Atlantic Deep Water .
In the polar regions sea water freezes . The resulting ice contains only part of the sea water salt, about 0.5% (5 ppt), hence ice formation like evaporation, concentrates salt in the remaining body of sea water. This causes very dense water (cold and salty), which in some regions in the Southern Ocean leads to deep reaching convection (that is spontaneous sinking of heavy water), called Antarctic Bottom water .
The very low salinity of the Arctic prohibits the development of deep reaching convection. Southern ocean ice exhibits lots of seasonal variability, and is generally only 0.5 meters thick. There is evidence of greater amount of vertical overturning (sinking of heavy, dense water and rising of lighter water) in the southern Ocean, as deep water upwells to be replaced by sinking cold polar water.
In sharp contrast is the Arctic sea where the sea ice is usually about 2 to 3 meters thick with a lesser amount of seasonality, and a water column which is very stratified (low density residing above high density).
There is some evidence that global warming is reducing the area of year round sea ice in Arctic, but not (yet?) within the Southern Ocean.
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hibiscusfire
Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker. At the rate of deterioration, no such field would exist if the earth were as old as evolutionists believe. Danny: Also can you give more data about that magnetic change you talking about, and why that is not normal. Well first of all evidence that the earth-sun system was designed by God far outweighs any possibility that it all just happened to come together by mere chance. The core is a ball of iron 6960 kilometres across, at a temperature of more than 5000 °C. The outer 2260 kilometres are liquid, the inner part is squeezed solid. Convection roils the outer portion of the core, as cooler, denser fluid sinks under the pull of gravity, while hotter, less dense liquid rises to take its place. Earth's field has a well-known penchant for reversing its poles every now and then. These reversals are recorded in the magnetism of ancient rocks. And measurements of the field show that its strength is decreasing at the moment. The Earth will be hit by much more radiation than it currently receives. Earth’s magnetic strength has declined 6% in the last 150 years
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hibiscusfire
Not enough sodium in the sea The oceans are getting saltier. If they are billions of years old, they would be much saltier than they were now.