See, I knew you would enjoy my reposting this piece. / You Know
THE MASTER OF DECEPTION
by You Know 54 Replies latest jw friends
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Winston
You Know,
I think your getting a following!
Just goes to show what you can do if you put your mind to it.
Now march on over to Brooklyn and knock on the GB doors and demand your respect.
The Never Ending Search For Truth
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You Know
You Know, I think your getting a following!
Indeed!
"They attack, they conceal themselves,
They, for their part, keep observing my very steps,
While they have waited for my soul." ---Psalms 56:6/ You Know
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AGuest
Okay... that's it. I can now officially call you a blasphemer against the holy spirit. Praise JAH... my Lord told me it was only a matter of time before you would 'sin'... once again... with your mouth... and judge yourself.
Thus, I say to YOU... Robert... by the power of the spirit of my Father that is in me, holy spirit, by means of His Son, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH... YOU are a devil and a slanderer... an offspring vipers... from your 'father'... the one who 'beget' YOUR wicked spirit, Satan the Devil. How so?
You said:
The uninitiated reader of course naturally assumes that Satan would be the Master of deception, but in actuality, while he is the malevolent Arch-deceiver, Jehovah is actually the Master.
And yet, Isaiah says of my Lord:
"He will make his burial place even with the
wicked ones, and with the rich class in his death,
DESPITE THE FACT that he had done no violence and
THERE WAS NO DECEPTION IN HIS MOUTH."So what? So, this is speaking of my Lord... who is:
"... the REFLECTION of [my Father's] glory and
the EXACT REPRESENTATION OF HIS VERY BEING...You insolent... LITTLE... gnat of a man. You have lifted yourself up over SO many... and yet, your slander renders you lower than any that I know... and comparable to those I have heard of. You have called my Father a 'deceiver'. I leave your 'end', then, to my Lord... and may JAH... REBUKE you!
A TRUE servant of the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, by means of a TRUE anointing with holy spirit, and a godly devotion that is NOT 'false' in its power... and a slave of His Son and Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH...
SJ
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You Know
Okay... that's it. I can now officially call you a blasphemer against the holy spirit...@#%^*&!~, ETC.ETC.
LOL! You crack me up. Where's all the 'love your enemies,' 'peace to you dear ones' stuff? LOL! You hypocrite!
You certainly call to my mind why Jehovah said that the apostate "followed in the path of Baalam." Baalam, you recall, was a lunatic prophet who tried to curse God's people but God deceived him into uttering a blessing. Your pathetic pronouncements of curses upon me and the Watchtower, supposedly by the holy spirit, is nothing more than voodoo. Your bluster and fiegned outrage over my supposed blasphemy is all show. Like Baalam you try use your limited knowledge of God in an uncanny way to call down evil on Jehovah's people. You simply reveal yourself to be a partner with the "accursed children" of the apostasy, whom you love to bless, just like Baalam was a partner with Israel's enemies. The apostates apparently only put up with you because you are all working for the same goal of stumbling one of Jehovah's little ones, if possible.
As for your lunatic accusations of blasphemy: I never accused Jehovah or Christ of uttering deception, but of allowing deception as it suits their purpose to keep their enemies at bay---preserved until the day of cutting off. That can include concealing things for the time being so as to induce unfaithful ones to reveal themselves. Apparently you take exception to Jehovah using such deception upon those hating him because you are on the deceiving end of the operation of error that God has let go forth.
"Alas, O Sovereign Lord Jehovah! Truly you have absolutely deceived this people..." ---Jeremiah 4:10
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bboyneko
Baalam, you recall, was a lunatic prophet who tried to curse God's people but God deceived him into uttering a blessing
Actually, I beleive it was God who was a lunatic in that story:
The story of Balaam and the angel is a good example of some of the problems experienced by God. Being extremely old, senility occasionally leads to some misunderstandings.
"And the children of Israel set forward, and pitched in the plains of Moab on this side Jordan by Jericho." "And Balak the son of Zippor saw all that Israel had done to the Amorites." "And Moab was sore afraid of the people, because they were many: and Moab was distressed because of the children of Israel." "And Moab said unto the elders of Midian, Now shall this company lick up all that are round about us, as the ox licketh up the grass of the field. And Balak the son of Zippor was king of the Moabites at that time." "He sent messengers therefore unto Balaam the son of Beor to Pethor, which is by the river of the land of the children of his people, to call him, saying, Behold, there is a people come out from Egypt: behold, they cover the face of the earth, and they abide over against me:" "Come now therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people; for they are too mighty for me: peradventure I shall prevail, that we may smite them, and that I may drive them out of the land: for I wot that he whom thou blessest is blessed, and he whom thou cursest is cursed." [Numb 22:1-6]
"And the elders of Moab and the elders of Midian departed with the rewards of divination in their hand; and they came unto Balaam, and spake unto him the words of Balak." "And he said unto them, Lodge here this night, and I will bring you word again, as the Lord shall speak unto me: and the princes of Moab abode with Balaam." "And God came unto Balaam, and said, What men are these with thee?" "And Balaam said unto God, Balak the son of Zippor, king of Moab, hath sent unto me, saying," "Behold, there is a people come out of Egypt, which covereth the face of the earth: come now, curse me them; peradventure I shall be able to overcome them, and drive them out." [Numb 22: 7-11]
God, of course, forbids the cursing of his chosen race, and tells Balaam not to go.
"And God said unto Balaam, Thou shalt not go with them; thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed." "And Balaam rose up in the morning, and said unto the princes of Balak, Get you into your land: for the Lord refuseth to give me leave to go with you." "And the princes of Moab rose up, and they went unto Balak, and said, Balaam refuseth to come with us." [Numb 22: 8-14]
Balak tries again.
"And Balak sent yet again princes, more, and more honourable than they." "And they came to Balaam, and said to him, Thus saith Balak the son of Zippor, Let nothing, I pray thee, hinder thee from coming unto me:" "For I will promote thee unto very great honour, and I will do whatsoever thou sayest unto me: come therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people." "And Balaam answered and said unto the servants of Balak, If Balak would give me his house full of silver and gold, I cannot go beyond the word of the Lord my God, to do less or more." [Numb 22: 15-18]
The ever-loyal Balaam asks God about the new visitors, and this time gets permission to go.
"Now therefore, I pray you, tarry ye also here this night, that I may know what the Lord will say unto me more." "And God came unto Balaam at night, and said unto him, If the men come to call thee, rise up, and go with them; but yet the word which I shall say unto thee, that shalt thou do." "And Balaam rose up in the morning, and saddled his ass, and went with the princes of Moab." [Num 22: 19-21]
Unfortunately for Balaam, when God got up in the morning, he had forgotten about their conversation.
"And God's anger was kindled because he went: and the angel of the Lord stood in the way for an adversary against him. Now he was riding upon his ass, and his two servants were with him." [Num 22: 22]
After a strange episode involving a talking ass, and an angel bent on killing Balaam, there is a happy ending. The angel also gives Balaam permission to go, and God gets his head straight.
"And Balaam said unto the angel of the Lord, I have sinned; for I knew not that thou stoodest in the way against me: now therefore, if it displease thee, I will get me back again." "And the angel of the Lord said unto Balaam, Go with the men: but only the word that I shall speak unto thee, that thou shalt speak. So Balaam went with the princes of Balak." [Numb 22: 34-35]
reposted from http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/8331
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joelbear
You Know quotes:
"Alas, O Sovereign Lord Jehovah! Truly you have absolutely deceived this people..." ---Jeremiah 4:10
Joelbear says:
Oh I see,
Jehovah is the master of deception.
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D wiltshire
You Know,
You said a mouthful here:
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In the second chapter where it was foretold that God would allow “an operation of error go to them that they may get to believing the lie, in order that they may all be judged because they did not believe the truth.” So, a mysterious man of lawlessness would deceive those who had originally been under apostolic authority, and he would bring them under his own domination. Using “every unrighteous deception,” the man of lawlessness would presumptuously set himself up as the expert on interpreting and explaining God’s word. And Jehovah himself allows this to take place “as a retribution” upon those who loved the lie. God then allows “an operation of error,” in that he caused his own word to be written in such a way so that it would conveniently lend itself to be misinterpreted by those so inclined to twist it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Kinda sound like you are talking about the WT society don't it?
I'M sorry You Know I should keep trying to get you to go to Brooklyn and become what your destiny is but, this quote of your hit me as so true of the WT.
Please forgive me.
Now don't forget when you become a member of the GB to write us.
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larc
Brother You Know,
I have a pregnant question for you. What do you think of the writings of Duns and Yadirf? Although you are all kindred souls, you three do seem to have some differences in your thinking. Also, do the three of you engage in social intercourse? Also, what are your opinions of Greg Safford. I have never read his works. Just curious.
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You Know
I haven't followed Dunscotts posts. Nor have I always read Friday's either. Friday and I do correspnod privately once in awhile and exchange ideas. As for Greg Stafford I haven't read his stuff either. / You Know