How many mistresses can a JW elder have? (page 3)

DannyHaszard

What organization can do that to you? Even the prison system allows contact, communication, letters, visits etc....but NOT Jehovah's organization! Makes you wonder!

That's it!

R6Laser

Out of the situation I related to you, a woman killed herself because ultimately she was disfellowshiped and lost EVERYONE. What organization can do that to you? Even the prison system allows contact, communication, letters, visits etc....but NOT Jehovah's organization! Makes you wonder!

All I can say is that the organization did not do that to her. She did it to herself. Tons of people die every day because of suicide, what's the root of that? Some evil corporation or the feelings of stress of the individual. I guess I just don't see where they claim to be perfect in everything they do unlike most people on this board. Every situation must be different, I faded after being a MS for years in my KH, and I still talk to my family, members of the KH that I happen to see in the streets with no problem. Elders don't harrass me when I see them.

daystar

All I can say is that the organization did not do that to her. She did it to herself.

How can you dismiss so easily the negative impact the Organizations rules and doctrines have on a person. I understand perfectly your stance of personal, individual responsibility. However, since such individuality is doctrinally suppressed by the WBTS, most are not prepared and are not strong enough to deal with such issues. They are kept weak, by and large. As I've suggested to you before, perhaps you are an exception. I suspect that many of the ex-JWs here are.

But that does not excuse the WBTSs responsibilty before their own God.

R6Laser

All I'm saying is that people usually attempt suicide to block unbearable emotional pain, which is caused by a variety of problems. It's often a cry for help. A person attempting suicide is often so distressed that they are unable to see that they have other options. Ultimately its the person who chooses they're own destiny. Each of us is responsible for our own actions and life choices. That's the part that I'm talking about, personal choices. If a person chooses suicide over trying to get their life together then the root of the problem lies within that indiviual and not being able to handle the stress.

So what if people you knew in the KH don't talk to you anymore, get new friends. This does not only happen in an organization its called human life. I've had good friends that thru the years something happened and they've become angry at me for whatever reason. I'm not going to commit suicide, I just move on. I just don't see the whole 'blame big brother for everything bad that's been happening to me'.

OldSoul

R6Laser,

I think you are missing a key element here. She wasn't 29 years old. She had been having an affair with this guy the entire time he was an elder (30 years). She was already at a point in her life where the idea of starting over was an emotional barrier in itself.

You have a bit of difficulty with the concept of empathy, don't you? You admit that intense emotional pain is what leads to suicide, yet you don't see how that could be largely caused by losing your lover, your friends, your family, and your faith all at one fell swoop. She could have possibly maintained emotional stability is it was just the one item, but all at once? Give me a break! This was cruelty on the part of many.

Respectfully,
OldSoul

R6Laser

So it was the WTS who forced her to have an affair and loose all her family? I can see how emotional distress can cause problems but the root of the problem was cause by something they chose to do. Don't want to loose your family, don't have affair with married men. I think that's pretty clear in itself.

candidlynuts

rlaser with all due respect , elders may have always treated you well but your male. the way females are treated would shock most rank and file men in the congregation.

tha main problem with such a widespread problem of elders having affairs is that we are told they are "appointed by the holy spirit". one would think the holy spirit would choose more wisely.

daystar

A person should be held responsible for what they do, certainly. So should a religious Organization be held responsible for their failure to develop healthy, well-balanced individuals and instead cause, in many, many, many cases, psychological and emotional instability and often trauma.

daystar

I would hold a child responsible for choosing to steal candy from a store. However, I would also hold the parent responsible if they chopped off the child's arm for doing so.

DannyHaszard

faded after being a MS for years in my KH, and I still talk to my family, members of the KH that I happen to see in the streets with no problem. Elders don't harrass me when I see them.

Post your real name & pic and see if they don't harrass you watchtower leaders are the control freaks with a mean streak-Danny Haszard Bangor Maine

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