How many mistresses can a JW elder have?

by Gill 64 Replies latest jw friends

  • Mary
    Mary
    The mistress left behind, confessed to the elders. She was disfellowshiped. Even though she had a history of deep depression and attempted suicides, the elders insturcted her parents that they could not talk to her more than once a week. She killed herself.

    Oh dear god that makes me sick to my stomach. Those f*cking elders should be SUED for involuntary manslaughter!! You see, this is the type of stuff that can happen when you have men who are completely UNTRAINED in every aspect of life, making decisions on other people's lives.

  • Confession
    Confession

    I think I can understand where laser's position is coming from. It's the standard "Everyone Must Be Held Responsible For His/Her Own Actions" position. And I happen to agree with it...when it applies. Like me, laser is probably sick and tired of hearing everyone blame every problem they have on someone else. [The tornado blew my garage down, and I blame the Federal Government!]

    Laser, as a fellow conservative-thinking person, I'd like to suggest you make a comparison. A comparison, say, between the responsibility a stranger has to you--and the responsibility a mother has to you. If you trust a stranger, and he lies to you, manipulates you and takes your money, sure, you can accept a huge share of the blame for trusting him. But if your mother--who has assumed the most trusted position possible in your life--lies to you, manipulates you and takes your money, we have an entirely different matter.

    It's true that the woman who committed suicide ultimately bears the greatest blame for what she did. But when the Watchtower Society's system drew her into its fold, it did so with certain very plain understandings. They would be her "mother." They would teach, nurture and shepherd her. Additionally, as a child of this organization, she was told she must be "sheep-like" in order to be properly appreciative of "mother." She was to submit to the Watchtower Society's authority quite absolutely. No, Mother never did hold a firearm to her head. But throughout her life they did make clear that if she ever chose her own course--apart from them--they would cut her off from her entire family within--as well as every member of perhaps the only community of friends she ever knew. And the Most High God's very own Faithful and Discreet Slave even told her she would be destroyed forever. No gun needed.

    This is not a case of a person's accepting a job with an employer, discovering certain unsavory things about them, putting in her two weeks' notice, and leaving to carry on life as before. The Watchtower Society does not merely control your working hours and paycheck. It seeks to gain even more trust than you would give your biological parent. It's only now that many of us have discovered (well into our adulthood) that they were actually willing to deceive us, lying and covering things up, to keep this trust.

    I don't know this woman. Nor do I know any of the others involved. If we knew the specifics, it's entirely possible we would feel a bit differently about the reasons they all did the things they did. But the Watchtower Society bears gigantic blame for assuming the "motherly" position they have, subjecting their "children" to extraordinary emotional manipulation, then casting them out by means of an incredibly cruel and childish policy that screens them off from every single person they love.

  • Gill
    Gill

    The WTBTS has a lot to fear, should those still in the cult actually wake up and smell the coffee.

    Can you imagine the suffering of the family of the abandoned mistress who killed herself? One of the first things people do when something like that happens and they lose a loved member of their family is wonder 'what could I have done to help her/him?' Then to realise that they were forced or coherced by fear of punishment from a bunch of toilet and window wipers not to help their loved one......

    I think a lot of anger would be involved.

    Hence the WTBTS venemous fear and hatred of the Internet.

    As I replied to Laser earlier, it only took my mother telling me NOT to look on the Internet about JWs and the WTBTs that made me look. Freedom followed quite quickly afterwards. And after that...a lot of anger.

    The WTBTS has a LOT to fear.

  • Es
    Es

    My ex hubbys mother actually got involved with an elder and also close family friend whilst this elders wife was dying of cancer. It was disgusting, she got reproved he got his privledges removed they married as soon as her divorce came through and his wife died, they go to meetings and cant understand why his privledges havnt returned.

    This brother his creepy I mean the first time i met him i said to my hubby there is something wrong with him. He seemed sleezy and slimy

    es

  • Gill
    Gill

    Morning Es!

    That seems to be one of the problems with the bOrg. It attracts people who would stand out as disfunctional and sleazy in the world in general and makes them acceptable and glorifies them if they go out on service, give talks, go to every meeting. The 'real person' does not enter into the equation. It gives them a veneer of respectability that the average JW can't see through. When I complained once to an elder about inappropriate behaviour of a brother he said simply, 'Yes, that may be the case, but he puts a lot of time in field service and has brought a lot of people to the 'truth'. Jehovah wouldn't use him if he didn't have the right heart condition.'

    That's where the average JW is fooled. They actually believe that God is guiding and using them and just because someone calls themselves a JW they 'must be good.'

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