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  Setting up trust – any suggestions on how to handle our JW daughter?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  we set up a trust a few years ago but have an appointment with our attorney later this month to make sure it is current and make any changes necessary.

  originally we had our daughter and our two sons to share equally.

  now i feel that it should not be equal.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Flipper I want to let you know that I always enjoyed your posts and your insignt. I've noticed before that our circumstances are very similar--except you have two daughters instead of one in the cult, and I have two sons instead of one who got out.
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  Setting up trust – any suggestions on how to handle our JW daughter?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we set up a trust a few years ago but have an appointment with our attorney later this month to make sure it is current and make any changes necessary.

  originally we had our daughter and our two sons to share equally.

  now i feel that it should not be equal.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I've heard some excellent suggestions. I think the best one is to email her and ask her what she wants us to do. I'll ask Clyde's opinion on this first.
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  Setting up trust – any suggestions on how to handle our JW daughter?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we set up a trust a few years ago but have an appointment with our attorney later this month to make sure it is current and make any changes necessary.

  originally we had our daughter and our two sons to share equally.

  now i feel that it should not be equal.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  We set up a trust a few years ago but have an appointment with our attorney later this month to make sure it is current and make any changes necessary. Originally we had our daughter and our two sons to share equally. Now I feel that it should not be equal. The last time Clyde or I saw or had a conversation with her was on the day my father was buried three years ago even though she lives only ten miles away. (Neither Clyde or I are DF’d). She does not answer phone calls, emails or letters. I also make sure to send her an anniversary card every year. She sent a rather cryptic email to our youngest son who invited her to his wedding last year about “marrying only in the lord.” No congratulations.

  Sometimes I get very upset about this. Also, the way I was treated before my father passed away. I had been his Power of Attorney, and she and her husband (plus my brother and cousin) convinced him to remove me. All of a sudden I was an outsider because I had dared the question the big “O” in a very brief conversation back in 2005—this despite the fact that I spent almost seven years helping my father with the care of my invalid mother when they and the rest of the congregation mostly looked the other way.

  Other days, I try to understand. I remind myself that I have to share a bit of the blame. In my late teens, I was largely responsible for my father becoming a witness—he often spoke of the good example I set for him and that’s why he became a witness. Of course, I trained my daughter to be a good witness to. I dutifully shunned people who weren’t a good example in the congregation. I would often comment on how important this was so that these people would see the error of their way.

  Clyde has often spoken of how we need to show forgiveness, and sometimes I agree. Then I think of our two sons who have been wonderful. They and their families have been very loving. One son lives out of state but comes to visit three or four times a year and calls us regularly. When we are with them, we can talk about any subject without being “judged.” On the other hand, our daughter will run to the elders any time she hears something she doesn’t like. She tried to get Clyde in trouble about four years ago—won’t go into detail now.

  We are starting our list of questions for the attorney this week. I think Clyde wants to be a little more lenient than I do. My feeling is, yes, let her have a little bit, but I personally feel that our sons are the ones who should be rewarded most—not her. Clyde and I have not discussed this aspect yet but will have to in the next few days and I also want to respect his wishes.

  It’s hard to describe my feelings toward my daughter. I believe I have the normal feelings that any mother would have, but now it’s mostly sadness—that she is so completely locked into that awful cult.

  Any advice?
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  Do you Know of any JW Pedophiles who Currently Go Out in Service ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife suggested this thread and i agree it's a good idea to put this out here to find out.

  just wanted to give her credit for the idea.. most of the public have no idea that some of the jehovah's witnesses people calling at their door are a previously convicted sex offender or pedophile who may have served hard time in prison for their crime.

  it would be interesting to have an informal survey here and get an idea of the sheer numbers of these child molesters who are out on the loose.. in your opinion - how would the public react if they knew that child molesters were regularly calling on their doors ?

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  "there are those who have made mistakes with minors many years ago, who themselves may have been quite young"

  What about a 15-year old boy? That was the age of my cousin and his friend who molested a 5-year old in his congregation. It was covered up by his super elder father who tried his best to get his son appointed an elder a few years later. The only thing that stopped the appointment was the girl's mother who threatened to go to the press.
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  What do you say, if someone asks if you go to church?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  clyde has a great answer.

  he says, "no, i take my faith too seriously.

  " he says that ends the conversation.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Clyde has a great answer. He says, "No, I take my faith too seriously." He says that ends the conversation. He doesn't want to talk about his JW background.
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  Theocratic Terms/Slang - Old and New

  by pirata in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the 2010 "safeguard your spirituality", the co (or do?

  ) mentioned that there are some theocratic terms that we need to be reminded about.

  he gave the example of many years ago when we said we were doing "back calls", but now we say we are doing "return visits".. here's some he mentioned (bad => good):.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Do you remember when the "Our Kingdom Ministry" was changed to "Our Kingdom Service" and then back to "Our Kingdom Ministry"?

  Before "Kingdom Ministry" it was "Informant."
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  Elder called last night and they are stopping by tonite for a 'visit'.......

  by troubled mind in

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  2. friends

  surprised me that he actually followed up on his word and called .

  it will be strange after four yrs.

  to have them in our house .my husband was not happy to hear it will be two brothers coming over, because he really does not want to feel we are being counseled .

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Be sure to serve them Koolaid.
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  Tons and tons of Elders letters.

  by callitquits76 in

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  i have tons of elders letters which were part of a website about 7 years ago and if my memory proves correct it was taken down due to bullying by the society.. i was wondering if these letters were still out there somewhere, because if not i'll upload them.

  they are all in catergories.

  might be useful.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I'm not very computer savvy. I tried to download, then found I had to enter my email and create a passcode to download "4Shared." I did that. Now that it's on my desktop, where do I find the elder letters?
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  "Short Notice" Talks or Demo's

  by Think About It in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  did you ever have to give a "short notice" talk or demonstration?

  didn't it put alot of pressure on you to come up with something, because someone else cancelled out or you could have been informed sooner?.

  i was all the time put in this situation.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Several years ago, Clyde and I walked into the KH, he looked at the board and realized he had the instruction talk (first talk on the program). He quickly looked over the material, walked up to the platform and gave the talk. Nobody would have ever guessed it was impromptu. Clyde was amazing that way.
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  When will we have Armageddon, according to the last new light?

  by dgp in

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  2. friends

  i'm just curious: has the watchtower said when we will have armageddon, or they are avoiding to give any date, or are they avoiding noticing that all the signs are there to suggest that there is a specific date we should look forward to?

  any dates?.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Armageddon has already come. It was in 1975--it just came invisibly.