friends,.
i have seen several posts like the following, and never thought i would have to write one myself, but here we go: my dear mom is forcing me to make a move... one that i have been really avoiding as much as possible.
she wrote me an email today, and here i am giving you an idea of its contents.
Thanks problemaddict,
Obviously my dear mom has no clue about how to get information from the WT.... and of course her idea will do nothing to help my case. I guess she did find brother Brown on the website, but I do not blame her for that because, dare I say, nobody, especially in latinamerica, knows how corporate this organisation behaves.
I am from Medellín, Colombia, where did you serve, and for how long?
Thanks everyone for the comments!
friends,.
i have seen several posts like the following, and never thought i would have to write one myself, but here we go: my dear mom is forcing me to make a move... one that i have been really avoiding as much as possible.
she wrote me an email today, and here i am giving you an idea of its contents.
Friends,
I have seen several posts like the following, and never thought I would have to write one myself, but here we go: my dear Mom is forcing me to make a move... one that I have been really avoiding as much as possible. She wrote me an email today, and here I am giving you an idea of its contents. Perhaps you all have different advices for me, and I will see what fits my sitation better.
She starts with some guilt-trip a la WT style, telling me that I have changed a lot in the past 10 years, since I moved from home (South America) to study in the US. Then she has a deal for me: 'I have been praying, and now I am ready to ask you to do this, so that Jehovah through his Holy Spirit can touch your heart, helping you to solve any doubts, because otherwise I will have to arrive to the inevitable conclusion that you have left Him, which means you are also leaving me'.
'Please call Bethel in Brooklyn, and talk to brother Brown in this number (xxxxxx). Make an appointment with him, and tell him all your doubts about the organization and about Jehovah. After we do this, we can really know what you think. I have made a vow to Jehovah so that He can help you, and I pray that he gives me strength to accept your ultimate decision. I want to be on earth when His will is done, and to help sanctify His name, and I hope He can help me be there with my two sons. Love'.
So, since I am new here and nobody really knows my situation, I clarify that I don't have any doubts now. I admited to myself that I have been an atheist for at least a couple of years, and I have no intention of going back to the borg. Some circumstances have made my fade easy, and it has been almost a year and half since I attended meetings. As many of you know by experience, I am against the wall, not so much for myself: I am dettached from the congregation in all aspects of my everyday life -except when I go back to visit my family, it becomes a problem.... but in the day-to-day routine, I don't need the congregation. It is only because I am the only person my mom really has in many aspects. She gets all the emotional and even financial support from me, and she has said that she would rather die, if I am not going to stay firm in my commintment to the borg when I was 12......
I guess I could fake it from here. Tell her that I believe all that BS, that I attend meetings, because in a way she is not able to confirm. But at some point, it feels like it is unavoidable the moment when she will shun me for not staying in. My big concern, again, is her because I am her only hope.
Anyone?
add your own thoughts:.
top 10 wt changes if a mexican-american brother is appointed to the gb:.
10. zoot suits are now acceptable for talks.. 9.
I get that it might sound racist. I am latino myself, and I think this is hillarious. More importantly, this is TRUE. Is it not because of Spanish congregations that there was, not long ago, a small increase? Even worldwide, in Latinamerican countries they are still growing...... but I doubt they will like any of this Mexican stuff, hahaha.
yesterday, i saw a picture of a family signing kingdom melodies together.
it made me realize a fact that i am somewhat ashamed to admit:.
for over a decade, i have been aware of the false prophecies, the deceptive statements, the lack of scriptural support for many core practices and other issues with the witnesses.
"Many of them were bland and sounded like they'd been arranged and played by a robot."
Yes, I was actually so proud of the old acoustic piano recordings, because you could hear some sort of artistry and deliberate playing. I am convinced the new recordings are played in an electric piano, probably even my a music software where you enter the notes and it reproduces the pitches for you. OR, they got the worst pianist of all to tape the melodies.
yesterday, i saw a picture of a family signing kingdom melodies together.
it made me realize a fact that i am somewhat ashamed to admit:.
for over a decade, i have been aware of the false prophecies, the deceptive statements, the lack of scriptural support for many core practices and other issues with the witnesses.
AND thanks to the WT for the old songs, because 20 years ago I decided to play an instrument so that I could play the old songs. They kept me interested, and I practiced them a lot. I am still at school, non-stop since that time, finishing a doctoral degree in music. When they changed the songs, they explained that it was to make it easier for the congregation to sing...... and you all know that's exactly the opposite: rests that are unexplicably long, asymmetric melodies, no logical rhymes, cheap, cheap, CHEAP music. I could not believe it, even with all the training I have, it was very difficult to sing.
You make me think that this is probably the reason I left too.
http://download.jw.org/files/media_books/b8/co-pgm14_e.pdf.
i think i will want to kill myself during the friday afternoon symposium.
it should be called "how to not enjoy life or have fun.".
ohh my.....
Nobody with a minimun of honesty and decency understands how they keep talking about 1914. The comparison between the rule of satan and of jesus is a stab in their own heart. The tittle 'Enter the Kingdom Maimed, Lame, or One-Eyed' is beyond me. And of course, they make sure to insert the poison in the symposium on Friday at 2, why you should do more even if you are sick, why not to talk to family members who are not JW anymore, and why you should not go to college. How can anybody have the stomach for that? I certainly did not even when I was still in.
my heart is heavy as i write this letter.
i have been trying to live my life as best that i can since leaving jehovah's witnesses.
my dad was not a witness and was my rock when i left the religion.
I am concerned with the fact that most people, me included, have the tendency to tell the true in the way that the WT has taught us. Being convinced that all the WT says is a lie, I do not feel the obbligation to incriminate myself in matters that have an impact in my relationship with family. My mom is not talking to me all that much, but she knows that we simply do not speak about certain issues. When she tries to push me there, I just say: OK mom.
I refuse to play by their rules and risk my family. They already quasi-shun me, mostly because my mom is a die-hard. I think I can only show her that I love her and avoid that conversation. But if she pushes you again and again, do not play by the WT rules!
ok, sometimes i go to jw.org just to laugh a bit about the 'food at the proper time', and i would like to know what people think of this hillarious article 'am i attracted to the same sex.
does that mean i am gay?'.
this has to be one of the most remarkable pieces of logic (last paragraph of the article).. the bibles stand is not unreasonable.
By the way, notice that the 16 year old sister interviewed in the article says she how and where she understood how hormones work..... wait, a biology class???? How do we pick when science is correct? of course, when there is the slightest chance to accomodate scientific facts to my teology, then it is OK. But do not listen to science when it tries to explain things that go outside my minuscule understanding of the universe and life.
ok, sometimes i go to jw.org just to laugh a bit about the 'food at the proper time', and i would like to know what people think of this hillarious article 'am i attracted to the same sex.
does that mean i am gay?'.
this has to be one of the most remarkable pieces of logic (last paragraph of the article).. the bibles stand is not unreasonable.
OK, sometimes I go to jw.org just to laugh a bit about the 'food at the proper time', and I would like to know what people think of this hillarious article 'Am I attracted to the same sex. Does that mean I am Gay?'
This has to be one of the most remarkable pieces of logic (last paragraph of the article).
The Bible’s stand is not unreasonable. It simply directs those with homosexual urges to do the same thing that is required of those with an opposite-sex attraction — to “ flee from fornication. ” ( 1 Corinthians 6:18 ) The fact is, millions of heterosexuals who wish to conform to the Bible’s standards employ self-control despite any temptations they might face. Those with homosexual inclinations can do the same if they truly want to please God. — Deuteronomy 30:19 .
It makes me mad because my brother, also a born in, told me he's bisexual, and does not know what to do with himself. So, I guess this is the higher education he's getting.
i would like to know how many faders/faded are in the area.
i do not want to be contacted ,nor will i contact you.. give brief background, here's mine:.
born in lifer, family man, i live in the west suburbs of cleveland.
Hi there,
I am in Cleveland Hights, and I faded about a year ago when one of the congregations was merged with another one in the East Side. It was just easy for me to find a excuse and never go back. I would actually be interested in getting to know ex-JWs!
