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  Melbourne Victoria Circuit Assembly Figures

  by jonahstourguide in

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  hi all, kind of news i suppose.. fyi, 10/12/2016 at melton assembly hall.

  1,266 in attendance.. two 15 yo, one male one female baptised.. costs for the day, $6,951:00 .

  before costs contribution to sydney branch office from last assembly surplus $3,000:00. jtg.

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  Wow, a deficit yet again?

  Amazing....(sarcasm alert)
  
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  What Is "Counsel" and How Does It Work?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes, i know what "counsel" means, but it clearly has an esoteric meaning.

  in the academy award winning bunker video series, the noble brother brown admits he didn't handle it well when elder ben (who was a junior elder...uh, yes, that's right) gave him counsel about a talk he'd given.

  not enough use of scriptures.

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  stuckinarut2

  Counsel in WT world means being "told off" for not going according to Society guidelines, or simply having a bully elder impose his personal views on another.

  There is NEVER any room for a "lesser" witness to reply to or kindly object to the "counsel".
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  Film: "Worldly Girl" ("La Ragazza del Mondo" original Italian title)

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please note - this is in italian!.

  an italian movie - hat tip to room 2015. worldly girl (2016)la ragazza del mondo (original title).

  1h 41min, drama romance9 november 2016 (italy).

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  stuckinarut2

  I agree Smiddy!

  Perhaps someone can recommend it to SBS?

  I'll try myself now.

  While I haven't watched these clips,(nor would I understand them) it seems like the very storyline the Society used in the drama videos at the conventions this year! You know the one about the girl leaving home for her worldly boyfriend. The video where the parents made out like SHE hurt THEM by leaving, and not the other way around! (As they abandoned their family duty to her!)
  
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  questions about some doctrinal issues

  by Truth and Justice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first, a good evening to all on this forum,.

  i have been busy with my work, and so i don't come on here much.

  but because of winter, i will stop in on occasion and share some interesting insights.

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  stuckinarut2

  One thing of note about the "good Samaritan" was that he was from an Apostate Nation, and yet he kindly helped out a Jew! (God's People at the time)

  So, I wonder nowadays if an "apostate" was in dire trouble, would a Witness stop and help them out??

  Thought not....
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  black dog comes to visit

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear friends,.

  once again my depression has got the better of me and i must bow out for a time.. "the angels sang glory to god in the highest and on earth peace unto men of goodwill'.

  so if that means at this special time of the year then have a happy and safe christmas time all of you.. hugs.

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  Do any of the governing body of JWs exercise their conscience?

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the members of the governing body, by being at the reins of a large corporation, must be confronted with situations which force them to think about the validity of their doctrines.. the australian royal commission hearing must have highlighted for the gb, especially jackson, the rational inconsistency of using an iron age dictum of "two witnesses" in a world which has moved beyond such rough justice.

  today we have a scientific approach, we examine forensically, we have psychologists who can tell us about individual's minds and behaviour.

  today, children's voices are not ignored.. the first and last resort of jws and their leaders is the doctrine of the "inerrancy of the bible".

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  Exactly as Listener said above!

  They genuinely don't think they have done anything wrong. They sincerely believe the stuff they preach.
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  How Jehovah’s Witnesses leaders hide child abuse secrets at all costs - Reveal News - December 10, 2016

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  how jehovah's witnesses leaders hide child abuse secrets at all costs.

  by trey bundy.

  reveal news.

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  stuckinarut2

  The cracks in the damn wall get bigger....
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  JW Policy Regarding "Marking" From The Nov 2016 WT

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws will deny that local needs parts are often just a way to mark those in the congregation who are deemed to be "bad association" or who don't fall in line with the elders viewpoints.

  now, for the first time in a long time the wt discusses their marking policy and how it works in the nov study wt:.

  recall paul’s counsel regarding disorderly ones in the congregation.

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  stuckinarut2

  Yes, I knew they did a marking talk about me for "apostasy" and "independent researching"... within a week, dozens dropped me off social media.

  THEN the rumour mill went wild and I heard that gossip of my "sin" was actually some of the most distorted stuff you could imagine! And witnesses say they don't lie?! Haha

  I guess it makes them feel better if some elaborate concocted story is spread rather that the facts. That lets them off the emotional hook as they remember that I only ever did things to help them ...yet they can conveniently forget that and enjoy a slanderous story instead.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5751633187176448/all-my-friends-organisation
  
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  OT - Pork was unclean... NT Now it's not?

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this always baffled me.

  either pork is unclean and wrong to eat forever, or it was a load of bull to begin with..

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  Yes, why is some of the old law used as a verbatim "principle" (command) by witnesses nowadays, yet other stuff is ignored?

  For instance they take the scripture about "no tattoos" literally, yet the very next verse about not shaving off your beard is said to NOT apply now?

  If god is supposed to "never change" , why do the rules change?

  And anyway, were not the Jews abandoned by God for being unfaithful? So why should anything from that time be even a "principle"?
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  JW Policy Regarding "Marking" From The Nov 2016 WT

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws will deny that local needs parts are often just a way to mark those in the congregation who are deemed to be "bad association" or who don't fall in line with the elders viewpoints.

  now, for the first time in a long time the wt discusses their marking policy and how it works in the nov study wt:.

  recall paul’s counsel regarding disorderly ones in the congregation.

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  stuckinarut2

  Wow! What a perversion on 2thes 3!

  It says NOT to treat such ones as an enemy...not to ignore them and stop associating with them.

  So now that gives the green light to witnesses to form their own personal "disfellowshipping" standards!?!