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  Prince is dead.

  by DATA-DOG in

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  has anyone heard about this?

  that really sucks.

  lots of dubs are talking.

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  It's been some week. I've been on Youtube a lot, watching stuff that Prince, ironically, made sure nobody shared online while he was alive.

  Those who entered the world after his heyday in the 80s and 90s relate much differently than those who came before. But now with his stuff freely shared, can appreciate so much more about his creative impact.
  

  Life is such a mysterious puzzle, isn't it. The artist must be paid, yes. But the artist must be seen to be appreciated. And thank you to all of the fellow musicians who played with Prince through the years. All of you made beautiful creative things: Wendy, Lisa, Sheila, and others. All of you who I couldn't appreciate because I was a JW and couldn't listen to Prince. The irony there is more than palpable.
  

  RIP. I hope things are much better in the "after world". Cause in this life, we ARE on our own.

  Thanks again, PRN. Sad because you won't be here any more. Glad you were. :)
  
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  Prince is dead.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone heard about this?

  that really sucks.

  lots of dubs are talking.

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  Phaedra

  I went all through yesterday at work without knowing Prince died.

  I found out with a Google news headline at about 6pm yesterday.

  It hit me hard.

  And reminded me of the eventual end of everybody on this earth, no matter how important, rich and famous our perception of them are.

  All of this is pointless and amounts to a hill of beans for everyone.

  If there's an afterlife that proves me wrong, I'll eat my hat.

  RIP PRN. That I feel my life was worth less than yours...we'll never really know, will we?
  
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  Prince tried to make a recruitment film for jw's?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've read in an article on that in 2001 prince wanted director kevin smith to make a movie based on his album the rainbow children.

  but the director dropped out when he realised that it was going to be a recruitment film for jw's including flashing messages on screen like "jesus christ is god's son" etc.

  has anyone else heard this before?

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  Watched that last night. So interesting to hear outsiders (never been JWs) perspectives on stuff.

  Still can never relate to a deeply creative soul with every advantage at the nurturing and development/promotion of their creative gifts at a time when MTV was ripe and his thing filled a niche.
  

  For every Prince Rogers Nelson, there are untold numbers of individuals with passion and promise. What a lottery of luck this life is.
  
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  Any here who didn't rebel as a teenager and were a goody two shoes instead?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was a teenager in the borg i was a dyed in the wool, goody two shoes, squeaky clean,"spiritual " sister.

  alot of my peers around me were rebelling and going off the rails but not me.

  i was constantly praised for this and even felt a little smug about it ha!.

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  that was me, mostly
  
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  Thinking of writing a book about jw's, what should I put in it?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've just finished reading alan miller's "fade from the truth", i enjoyed it and i love that it's freely available.

  so i was thinking of writing a book of my own.

  not an account of my life but more a simple step by step look at jw's and what they are really like?

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  Seriously, if you don't even feel sure as to what you want to put in your book, you might not be ready to write one just yet.

  yep
  
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  What Happens To You When You Die?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are our dead loved ones watching over us at all or are they really just gone now?

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  The afterlife, of course.
  
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  Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

  by elderess in

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  2. friends

  only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

  then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

  thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

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  Welcome, eldress!

  Reading your story and learning how your husband responded to you as you lay side-by-side in your bed sharing the most vulnerable thing you can as a doubting JW nearly made me tear up... As a couple you both will leave together and not be torn apart and shredded emotionally over TTaTT like so many JW marriages have been.
  

  Congratulations on the beginning of the rest of your lives, together!
  
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  The Way JW Females Act

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the more i interact with non-jw men and women the more i notice that i still behave like a jw woman.

  when i interact with people (men especially) i find myself being super submissive and docile.

  acting like i don't have a brain and can't make decisions on my own.

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  Phaedra

  Hi Lauren,

  Good input here - I can identify with where you're at post-JW, and have been doing lots of my own inner work toward being more assertive about my own needs and standing strong in my own space. Wanting to be liked by others is natural, and as mentioned above, understanding the limits to that will work to your advantage on how much investment you put into others over yourself.
  

  Up thread, self-esteem and people pleasing was mentioned. JW hierarchy and forcing the role of the submissive woman definitely shapes and molds the female identity. Couple that with personality type and temperament in women who are more sensitive and facilitating/cooperative in their core means a lot of variations on this theme exist.

  Your biggest strength is in recognizing what's currently going on with you. Now you can acknowledge where some of that came from and work towards changing patterns that no longer fit. We're all beautifully complex human beings and one size doesn't fit all in the way we work our way through these things.

  Thank you for posting this.
  
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  What's the point?

  by punkofnice in

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  2. friends

  i mean, i don't want to be miserable or anything, but what's the bloody point of it all?.

  since i left the watchtower cult, i have come to realise that god cannot possibly exist...and if a god exists...god is indifferent to humankind as the least.. in 100 years time i'll be gone.

  kaput.

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  Cofty, thanks for your thoughts
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  A list of top You tubers out there worth visiting, please add yours.

  by pleaseresearch in

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  2. bible

  i'm an unbelieving but baptised jw.

  i woke up to ttatt around 4 years ago.

  i haven't been regular to meetings for nearly 10 years.

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  Phaedra

  JT and Lady C from this site
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