aren't they both just differen't variations of the same lie?
the only difference is the scale on which their impact on humanity is measured.
that, and the fact that the bible can exist without the wt, but not vice versa.. but at the end of the day, what's the difference between claiming to be the inspired word of god, or the one true religion?
Islam does not exist without the bible. Read the Quran.. Christians and Jews are 'People of the Scripture. Moses reveal the Law... David the Psalms... Jesus the Gospel and Mohammud the Quran... The numbers of stories in the Quran that are based on the bible take up half the Quran. The rest is divided into
Praising Allah
Prasing the prophet
elling other how to live.
its unbelievable to me that one verse in the bible blows up the entire jw dogma and its amazing to me that with all this bible reading we jw's did we missed it.
even faders and people who quit for many reasons missed it.
what verse am i talking about it verse 9 of chapter 5 of revelations.
We are all stupid that we belived a book. Thus it is not so hard to prove,
i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.
i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.
" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.
Why not just read the BOM? It quotes ferom KJV isaiah word per word thus is written after 1611!
So F&&& their faith! Burn them with facts!
After Nephi is shown as a fogery show that Jesus is false. After that show genetics to native americans@
i'm not a jw nor is my entire family save for my brother, his wife and kids.
we are celebrating our grandparents 50th anniversary.. one of my brother's kids is living with his girlfriend and as a result, the rest of his immediate {jw} family is shunning him.. what, if anything do you think that i could do or say to get his (jw) family to see how awful their behavior is?.
i am asking for suggestions to get these people to think.. .
Actually this is sooo easyyy.
The JW shunning you relative just needs to be turned around.
Shun him.
"we shun him because he shuns us....Don't talk to him... he is a fool."
Etc.
Eventually they will see they are fools. at 80 years of age ...
this is my first post on the new site so here goes.... .
i was reading the post a while back from "v" on blood policy and fractions where it was compared to a ham sandwich.
this was a good illustration, but i thought it lacking a bit in that the components exist on their own as food items rather than derivatives.
Ah yes the famous blood issue.. I see no reason to prusue this today since the first tiem a JW takes the WT to court for blood in 2014 will spell the enf of blood tranfusion issues.
This issue is more then 2000 years old and I fail to see by fools (Christins) see the need to adress it.
something i ponder about now and again.
i don't shave that much, maybe twice a week so it's not even a big deal, but i saw someone at the health club using an electric shaver and that got me pondering all over again.. .
i've been using mach iii recently and fairly happy with that.
I use both. The differance is I shave my head so the Mach 3 blade jam up doing that often.
to my total astonishment, there is no mention whatsoever in the scriptures re jehovah's creative days being each of 7000 years duration.. nothing!.
zilch!.
...and yet the wt had this to say:.
7000 year days were a HUGE basis for the Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained Book.
However recently the WT is moving slowly. The lastest creation Awake actually admited to animal evolution to some degree.
The next step will be to acknowlege evolution and to say man didn't have conciousness until Adam. (Jews and many liberal Christians teach this)
i hear that a recent talk was about taking care of one's aging parents.
i agree.
generally, kids should take care of aging parents.
Aha a retirement option... I have no hope in thw WT other then the Young gernation will pull it down. and tel the old guys to FO.
Sanderson is young but he is so big he cant fight it
i was watching a video on youtube about chistianity and its founding and it came to my attention that the city of nazareth did not even excist when jesus was said to be alive.
it was'nt really anything accept a cemetary until about 200 ad.
so just like the city of goshen were the israelites were said to be from when they left egypt during the exodus, looks like another major flaw in the bible..
Nazareth is hard. There was a SITE calle Nazareth... was it a town? I think Math, Mrk and Lk thought it was<< Gentile documents
John mentions Galilee. That's all. And to be honests his idea that any Pharisee would ever claim a prophe had never come out of Galilee was STUPID.. Ever hear of Jonah? (2 Kings 14:25)
John (the author) had a bone to pick with Pharisees.
Many of these Nazareth myths start with Randell's YouTube video... Sorry Jumping over Naigra Falls doesn't qualitfy him to comment on ancient cities...
I suggest the site became inhabetied after 70 CE when Chritianity really started!
the unknown writer of the gospel of john put the following words in jesus' mouth, "blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.".
persuading countless generations that it is a virtue to believe incredible things on insufficient evidence, is one of religion's cleverest tricks.. the more incredible the claim; the more flimsy the evidence; the stronger the belief; the greater the virtue.. this is the exact opposite of how we operate in every other aspect of our lives.. rational people must demand objective evidence for everything they are asked to believe.
"extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence".. leaving the dogmatic claims of the watchtower is only a first step.
Faith needs to be based on evidence and if you really need a NT quote how about Hebrew 11:1 - Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. KJV
ERVs prove creation false so there... I have faith that God didn't make me so if he exists then based on evidence he doesn't care...simple
