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  Elders accused of playing rape tape to victim, 15; case goes to Utah Sup. Court

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a woman is suing a local congregation ("kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses, roy, utah, an unincorporated association"), individual elders and watchtower ny after, she claims, a judicial committee forced her to listen an audio recording of her own rape.

  the trial court summarized the facts as alleged by the plaintiff as follows:.

  at the time of the judicial committee, plaintiff was fifteen years old.

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  Balaamsass2

  My heart has always gone out to the victim and parents. They have been members on this board for years, and I met them at the Tahoe Appostafest years ago.

  Had I not experienced the (top-down) convoluted backward thinking of many JW elders even in New York City and California, and met the likable, solid, and intelligent parents, I would have thought the entire horrific story incredulous.

  Kudos to this family for keeping up the fight. Even in a small Mormon majority town and state, many authorities find Watchtower policies despicable and stone age.
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  25/30 complex bethelites...

  by silentbuddha in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was wondering if there are any other former bethelites who worked in this complex during the late 80s and 90s who are on this board.

  i am asking because it appears this specific set of people seemed to have or experience the worst aspects of that hell hole and i wanted to see if there are any others.

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  Sorry. Primarily Squib, Towers, and Home(a little bit at the Service desk) in the late 70s.
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  MICKEY SPILLANE and MIKE HAMMER novels (A tough guy JW back in the good old days of Knorr)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  spillane, mickey spillane.

  he pulled no punches and his pen was as fast as his gun.

  after all, it took almost three whole weeks for mickey to type his first novel.

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  Thanks for the memory Terry! I only remember my mother hissing about Mickey Spillane when I saw him on the Merv Griffen show. "He writes dirty books!!!!!!" lol :)
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  MORTALITY rates Pre-Covid and Post-Covid (How are we going to understand?)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got out my calculator and looked up mortality statistics.

  i wanted to get a "feel" for what is normal ina non-pandemic world in order to compare with how things are now.once had had a "feeling" for it i began to notice that media has a dramatic (perhaps overblown) tendency toterrify the public by framing death rates, predictions, and political discord hysterically.

  mortality in a normal world.

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  Mortality rates now vs a normal 6 mo period would be hard to compare. Few traffic accidents. No elective surgery screw-ups. Few job accidents. No one stressing out at work having heart attacks.
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  I bought these two books out garage saleing

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the truth that leads to eternal life at a church rummage sale.

  1968 printing and a 74 printing of god's eternal purpose now triumphing for mens good.

  i know the truth book has some things in it that are a bit damning.

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  I always like the Truth book chapter "Why is it wise to examine your religion".

  "Life Everlasting in the Freedom of the son's of God " has a lot of the 1975 predictions.
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  Ant legal recourse?

  by Huxley1979 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone, if the elders start hounding someone to attend a judicial committee meeting is there any legal recourse that someone can take to make them back off?

  i know that sometimes they will just at the threat of it.

  thoughts?.

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  Don't answer the door or phone when two or more elders are together. They will leave a message. Call back in a friendly manner at an inconvenient time for THEM only one elder at his home. Hi,----- sorry I missed you...(we are/have moved halls) what's up? :) Oh, I'm sorry this week I'm swamped/out of town/attending new hall/sick/ ....just tell me now. "Oh my! that story is bizarre and completely untrue! It is a slanderous lie, defamatory, and gossip! WHO told you this??????? " Turn the tables on the TWO "eyewitnesses" and call them out. 90% of the time most JW "eyewitnesses" will hide and change stories if directly confronted and change things to "a misunderstanding". You may need to tell the "EYE Witnesses to prove their story, and that slander and gossip is a disfellowshipping offense and you would hate to have to sue them for defamation. If this doesn't fix it (I have seen many people slide with this over the years),simply move on and enjoy life, or pay a real attorney to write a letter like the one Atlantis has and send it certified to a few elders (and the witnesses). Our family attorney re-wrote my business letters on real letterhead for under $100. THINK about all the Pedophiles who NEVER get disfellowshipped for lack of TWO "CREDIBLE" eyewitnesses.
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  You Know You're A Jehovah's Witness When...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. social
  2. humour

  you know you're a jehovah's witness when.... being offered a scholarship to a good university is considered a bad thing.. when you see a house you like you claim it for after your god kills the owner.. you recieve spiritual guidence from a bus driver and a window washer.. you're engaged to a person you only met 3 months ago.. your widowed mother is marrying a man she met at the convention who she's known for 2 weeks.. there's jehovah's witnesses meeting in your house on a saturday morning to talk about going out knocking on doors on a saturday morning.. a lie in on a weekend happens about twice a year.. you dont talk to your own parents/children because they have a different opinion about a magazine.. you're not quite sure what you're supposed to believe anymore.. when someone criticizes your a magazine you feel like you're being attacked.. your 3yo son owns a suit.. if you're not married by the age of 30 you're considered to be gay or something wrong with you.. (for girls) if you havent married the first or second person you've dated you're considered promiscuous or something wrong with you.. you get your scientific knowledge from a magazine written by people who've never been to college and have never actually read the source they claim to be citing.. you get excited if there's a storm or natural disaster.. you get excited when there's a terrorist attack.. you get excited when there's a pandemic.. your version of tinder is the lunch break at a convention.. your girlfriend dresses like her grandmother.. your grandparents, despite being in the same religion as you, died believing totally a different belief system..

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  These are a scream! Hey, I still have those cheap suits!!!
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  jehober "always'" protects his 'loyal servants'?

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week i watched the docuseries on prime video called “the last narc”.

  it was mainly about the notorious mexican guadalajara drug cartel during the 70’s and 80’s and a united states dea agent, kiki camerena, who was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered in guadalajara, mexico in 1984. this is a very well-known and haunting event here in the usa.. however, there was also about a 7-8 minute segment during the docuseries that graphically detailed the kidnapping, rape, and murder of 4 jehovah’s witnesses that also took place just days before kiki camerena was taken.

  the jw’s were 2 married couples, us citizens, dennis and rose carlson, ben and pat mascarenas.

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  Growing up as a JW kid in the 60s and 70s every Circuit Overseer would tell tales of JWs saved from some horrible natural catastrophe or crime. I heard the tale of the Pioneer sister who was not killed because the killer said a huge man was standing next to her. all these tales at the hall or assembly elicited oohs and ahhs from the audience. Even the yearbook would throw in a few more tales. "Jehovah protects us"!! yay

  Then I went to Bethel and heard in hushed whispers all the tales of missing pioneer sisters who while in service alone ran into a crazed "collector" only to have their cold cases cleared years later. I was told to never repeat the stories because it might "stumble" some. How many of these women might have been saved from a horrifying end had Bethel been truthful???
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  What’s up with the modern Nation of Israel?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  being raised a dub i never voted.

  i’m not a republican or a democrat, not a liberal or a conservative.. i’m pretty middle of the road.

  i want everyone to have a fair shake if possible in this life, but i definitely don’t believe in forced equality, that’s just not possible.

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  What do you expect from a bunch of Religious fanatics? I see no easy answers in my life as long as ALL the politicians (all sides) have to pander to their constituents' lowest common denominator..religious hate and magical thinking. I found the Wiki entry on Palestine a good memory jogger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine

  PS. The 1960 Classic "Exodus" about the formation of modern Isreal is on Netflix this month. Sure it is one-sided, but it did affect many US policies and public opinion that exists today.
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  So...what do you think about The United States of America?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know the usa is not perfect.

  there have always been social issues and differences.

  politics has been for many people divisive.

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  I was born in San Francisco and have lived and worked in a number of states. I have not lived in any other country so it is hard for me to compare.

  There is a lot of difference between Americans in a conservative rural area compared to an urban area like NYC, LA, Seattle or the Silicon Valley. Even JWs are different. Each region has a unique flavor and climate.

  Being that one-third of my day I am asleep, a portion eating, a third + at work, I guess it doesn't really matter where one lives! I wish the USA had an IQ test, criminal background, drug test, and psychiatric test for anyone becoming a politician though. :)