Send Tony a card w/check. No self-respecting ex-CO or GB can resist a green handshake. :) The canceled check will serve as "proof of life". His bank info will be stamped on the back of your canceled check.
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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Has Prince Always Known of Jehovah's Witnesses
by prophecor inanyone who's a fan of prince will recognize that through out much of his music, there has been a spiritual connect in his lyrics, with several references to god.
there are some who have had prior knowledge of the truth but didn't let on until later in their life.
larry grahm of "grahm central station" fame was somewhat illusive as to his connection to the truth at the start of his musical carrer.
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Interesting read in todays New York Times. 9/9/2024
After reading it I really felt for the pain this man experienced and reflected in some of his music. Kicked out of his home in his early teens by his 7th day Adventist father. I can't help but wonder if he learned the truth about the truth before his death, resulting in more pain...... "...Prince’s parents, John Nelson and Mattie Shaw, had a volatile, violent relationship. They split up when Prince was 6 or 7, and his mother remarried a man named Hayward Baker. Two people in the film — a youth counselor and a childhood friend — said Prince told them that Baker locked Prince in his bedroom for a period of time (the youth counselor said it was for six weeks), passing food through the door. When Prince emerged, according to the counselor, his ebullience was gone: “He went inside.”
According to people in the film, Prince’s mother kicked him out of her house when he was around 12; she sent him to live with his father, whom he idolized as a musician. But after catching Prince with a girl in his room for the third time, his father, a strict Seventh-day Adventist, kicked him out, too. Prince was 14, and as his sister Tyka tells Edelman, “It broke his heart.” He stayed with various friends, for many years sleeping on a mattress in the basement of his best friend, André Cymone." ......"As his fame grew, he had a troubled relationship with his family members. His mother was in and out of his life, at times asking him for money. He and his only full sibling, Tyka, who sometimes abused drugs, were estranged for periods. He would draw close to his father, buying him a house and cars, bringing him as his date to an awards show, the two men dressed in matching purple suits. He continued to hunger for his father’s praise (a touching inscription on a copy of his cosmically great album “1999” flashes across the screen: “Hi Poppa, please play side with a star on it. It’s longer and better. Love you, Prince”), but John Nelson’s love was inconsistent and self-aggrandizing. In the film, we see him take credit in interviews for all Prince was, even demanding a co-writing credit on some of his songs, angering Prince and leading to more years of estrangement."...."...Edelman presents the depth of Prince’s denial about the death of his baby — for years, he would never acknowledge it publicly — as more evidence of his inability to show how truly vulnerable he was: a motherless, fatherless child who longed to be protected by a family of his own. As the family-making enterprise was failing, it seems he sought a different form of protection. Over the next 15 years, he adhered to a strict religious observance, falling under the sway of an ersatz father figure, the musician Larry Graham, who insinuated himself into Prince’s life and instilled in him the Jehovah’s Witness theology. Another seemingly inexplicable chapter in Prince’s metamorphosis starts to make some kind of sense. That weird period when Prince kind of went off the deep end? The film shows how he was caught in a grief that he couldn’t admit to or comprehend, trying on many new guises in an attempt to shed it." ..."After he died, his estate, which was divided among his sister, Tyka, and five half-siblings, was plunged into chaos. When Netflix negotiated the deal for the documentary, a court had placed the estate, which owed millions in back taxes, under the administration of Comerica Bank & Trust. But in 2022, after years of legal battles, a Minnesota court divided Prince’s assets between Primary Wave, a music company to whom three of Prince’s heirs had sold their shares, and Prince Legacy LLC, composed of the other three heirs and L. Londell McMillan, a lawyer who worked with Prince in the 1990s and 2000s, and Charles Spicer, a music producer." " Prince died on April 21, 2016, at age 57, of a fentanyl overdose, alone, in an elevator at Paisley Park."
The Prince We Never Knew
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/08/magazine/prince-netflix-ezra-edelman-documentary.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Jk4.IITs.nnglFMCB0IX6&smid=url-share
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Graham
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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Balaamsass2
Easy to verify.
Simply send him a note or card. "Do not forward" "address correction requested".
Or a Priority Mail envelope, with email verification. You get notified IF the address is changed, and WHERE it was delivered. Simply put a Get Well Card and a $10 bill in it. :)
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What if JWs voted in elections?
by Las Malvinas son Argentinas inall this political banter is exhausting, so i want to ask a question that has probably been asked before, so here it goes….
let’s try to keep this non-partisan - just give your opinion and why you think that way.. i’ll go first.
i think jws would generally lean to the right, but not by a whole lot.
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They would lean whatever way the GB told them to lean.
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Reddit thread about Bethel Reducing Headcount
by LongHairGal inapparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.
sad because these people expected to be lifers.
now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..
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Balaamsass2
I thought about this a bit more. Since the advent of the internet, there is no excuse to be in the dark about what is happening at Watchtower. If someone has been at Bethel for more than a couple of years they are going to be aware of the child abuse issue, UN issue, financial lies, Billions in reserves, Etc. If you are a male serving at Bethel and over 30 you will also be an Elder, and no doubt have dealt with these issues directly or in your congregation.
As an ex-Bethelite serving in US congregations, I took heat from Circuit overseers and local elders for speaking out against Child Molesters, writing letters DIRECTLY to the Governing body, and taking cases to the State Police. I took heat for speaking up about financial fraud in the circuit. I was amazed at how indecisive, anemic, and weak some circuit overseers and MOST elders were when it was time to stand up for the most BASIC moral principles that most children would understand. There is too much fear of man in the Borg.
If someone is still tying their wagon to the Watchtower to support them, they deserve what they get. My 2 cents.
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JWlite can be the purple pill
by Teddnzo ini really like the red pill analogy in the matrix.
the one guy wishes he didn’t take the red pill and would have preferred to take the blue pill.. many used to be pimi which is the blue pill and then they wake up to the fact that the gb are not who they claim to be which is taking the red pill.. they go through conflict and confusion as to what to believe now?
does god exist?
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I have known a few "Purple Pill" people over the years. Actually PI/O M I.
They want to keep family ties usually. Miserable existence IMO.
The only ones that SEEM to pull it off "discover" they have a disease that forces them to cut out meetings and field service with no outward diagnosable signs. (Fibromyalgia, Epstein Barr, tick fevers, etc.) or better yet, they move out of the District and become inactive (for work, etc), keeping a low profile. They only attend meetings/assemblies when they have to while visiting JW family members. :) I have known a few people who have done this for 20+ years. A LOT of extra work if you ask me.
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The HLC do not pressure JWs
by usualusername1 inthe hospital liaison committee (hlc) for jehovah’s witnesses does not pressure members to refuse blood transfusions.
rather, their role is to support jehovah’s witnesses in adhering to their pre-existing religious beliefs, which include a strict prohibition against accepting blood transfusions based on their interpretation of biblical scriptures.. jehovah’s witnesses are well-informed about their stance on blood from an early age, and refusing blood is a deeply ingrained religious conviction, not something imposed during a medical crisis.
the hlc’s purpose is to provide assistance in accessing bloodless treatment options, facilitating communication with healthcare providers, and helping ensure that the patient’s choices are respected.. while the hlc strongly supports adherence to the beliefs of jehovah’s witnesses, the ultimate decision remains with the individual.
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Balaamsass2
"Gullibility is a failure of social intelligence in which a person is easily tricked or manipulated into an ill-advised course of action. It is closely related to credulity, which is the tendency to believe unlikely propositions that are unsupported by evidence.[1][2]
Classes of people especially vulnerable to exploitation due to gullibility include children, the elderly, and the developmentally disabled".[2][3]
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The fading of a well known American religion. Could this happen someday to Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Balaamsass2 innew york times 9/5/24.
" there are only two shakers left.
they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.
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I have always found the Shakers, Amish, Quakers, and Mennonites fascinating. I was surprised the Shaker membership had dropped to TWO seniors- no wonder I never met one in field Service.
My wife's (3rd Gen) German maternal ancestors were from a Germanic Mennonite/Lutheran group.
When I first went to Bethel, I almost expected an almost ascetic environment. I was quickly disabused of that notion after my first week of breakfast announcements of "family member" disfellowshippings. :)
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The fading of a well known American religion. Could this happen someday to Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Balaamsass2 innew york times 9/5/24.
" there are only two shakers left.
they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.
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New York Times 9/5/24
" THERE ARE ONLY TWO SHAKERS LEFT. THEY'VE STILL GOT UTOPIA IN THEIR SITES.
"By Jordan Kisner
Jordan Kisner is a contributing writer for the magazine. She spent almost two years interviewing the last two members and their group of friends for this article.
- Sept. 5, 2024
The youngest Shaker in the world is 67 years old, and his name is Arnold. He lives alongside Sister June, 86, in a magnificent brick building designed to sleep about 70 — the dwelling house of the last active Shaker village in the world, at Sabbathday Lake in Maine. Together they constitute one of the longest-running utopian experiments in America.
It’s a triumph, as utopian experiments aren’t known for their durability, though the impulse — to start afresh apart from the mess of mainstream society, to reinvent society with like-minded people — has always been strong here. Out of the many that America has fostered, this is one of the most abiding. Out of the tens of thousands of Shakers who have lived out their faith in the last quarter-millennium, these two remain.
Brother Arnold Hadd and Sister June Carpenter live in an active village that is also a museum — they are inhabitants and custodians and exhibit all at once. Sabbathday Lake is a tidy, elegant configuration of buildings anchored by the brick dwelling house, constructed when the brethren numbered around 200. The Shakers maintain a small farm, with a herd of 70 sheep and four cows, and they sell herbs and teas harvested from their garden as well as furniture, beeswax candles and other “fancy goods.” Curious members of the public drive through even when Sabbathday Lake is closed to visitors, and pop out of their cars to wander up and down the dirt driveway, squinting at the Meeting House. Brother Arnold — Shakers go by their title and first name only — frequently comes out to greet people who show up, though he no longer offers tours. One weekend, two teenagers knocked on the kitchen door to ask if they could hunt turkey in the Shakers’ woods. He told them to go ahead."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/magazine/shakers-utopia.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Ik4.4mTp.P3Kqp4nPEf_E&smid=url-share
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Jehovah's Witnesses in the news again. Wise use of publisher's donations? New Zealand News
by Balaamsass2 indo jws feel this is a wise use of their donations?
does this bring honor to jehovah's name?.
9/1/24 :"new zealand abuse in care.
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And some more stories about this issue in the New Zealand press: "Making Jehovah's name known" by Watchtower.
The Spinoff July 25, 2024
These are the stories the Jehovah’s Witnesses went to court to stop you reading
"The inquiry expressed ‘concern about the faith’s overall approach to the safety of children and young people in its care’.
The stories below include accounts of sexual abuse.
It was the early 1980s and Ms SC, then 15, was a member of the New Zealand Jehovah’s Witness community. Elders in the church – a fundamentalist Christian group, which adopts a literal interpretation of its bible and believes Armageddon is imminent – were concerned about her behaviour. She was required to attend an Elder’s home for extra religious study, led by his wife.
“I would often be at their place after school or to go on outings. In addition to one-on-one bible studies with the Elder’s wife, I would join their family regularly for their family bible study,” she recalled.
When the tuition was over, the Elder “would drive me home”, said Ms SC. Except that, “instead of going home, he took me to another area nearby where there were no houses or anything at that time. This was when the abuse took place. It happened many times over a period of four to five months. At first he touched my genitals, then he digitally penetrated me, then he had full sexual intercourse with me.”
Ms SC’s story appears as part of a 64-page case study focused on Jehovah’s Witnesses in New Zealand, part of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in State Care, tabled yesterday in parliament. The church unsuccessfully applied to the Court of Appeal at the 11th hour to halt publication of the case study pending an application to the Supreme Court to appeal an earlier ruling. The application was denied. "