i think a lot of people need to read the book misquoting jesus, the story of who changed the bible and why by bart erman
might give you some understanding on that.
sowhatnow
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some thing to consider for bible believers
by Crazyguy inthe oldest in tact bible found is the codex voronicus, (miss spelled) and the oldest writings ever found were the greek septuagint written by jews in alexandria.
both of these collections of writings included the apocryphal and other writings like chapters and other verses of daniel not included in the jw bible.
so the question one must ask, is if your a bible believer how can you just throw out these writings, because reading these additional writings will change your understanding of what you have learned?.
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Need help understanding scriptues in Mathew. just trying to show my wife the BORG is soooo wrong
by goingthruthemotions inas you know i am still in but have no strong conviction for this cult..but i still go because my wife is still asleep to the false teachings.
for a few months now...when we have family study it is stricly from the bible.
which is great, while we study we are taking the bible as it is, i think it is opening her eyes and how important jesus is.
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HAS ANYONE SEEN.......
by DATA-DOG ina super bat-shit crazy invitation to pioneer in august??
i stumbled upon something the other day, but i have been hesitant to post it.
i am afraid that it could be a local thing and thereby traced back to me.
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PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...
by stuckinarut2 inok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
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Said from the platform: "You are not surviving Armaggedon if you are spiritually weak"
by Daniel1555 intoday i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).
in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".
our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.
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sowhatnow
wow! i cant belive that dontcallmeshirly that someone said most jws will not qualify.
qualify??? DID Jesus doe for us or not? did he say men have to qualify for his free gift?
who the heck are they to put requirements back on mankind???
id have got up and left. and who is the Judge here ? Jesus Im pretty sure, thank God.
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What Happens if...
by bafh inwhat happens if someone returns to the congregation but stays inactive?
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what happens if someone returns to the congregation and does not meet with the elders to "confess" their sins while away?.
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sowhatnow
bafh, Im sorry you feel so torn, but i hope you can let go of all the anxiety and just be a good person and respond in kind to everyone. to place yourself under the rule of men who do things that are contrary to Jesus teachings is going to continue to cause you anxiety.
if your half way out and no one really is giving you any problems be glad your off the radar, just fade away and be at peace.
Ive spent too much time reading and worrying about what my next step is going to be , and i too am stuck trying to stay connected with my extended, jw family, fortunately very limited contact,
and not put waves in the pond, and yet trying to branch out and live my life apart from all the worry and stress of my past as being a jw.
try to put the past out of your mind, dwelling on it does no good. pretend it never exsisted sometimes thats the only way to cope.
I too hope somehow, to be more social.
I hope i can attend an adult educational class or do some volunteering. [i know thats spelled wrong] so you might think of those ways that work for you.
on another note everyone seems to be having trouble with getting a socail life, its these darn computers and cell phones that have messed up humanity
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New BOE Letter Re. Elders/MS Appointments and Deletions
by XBEHERE infrom the wording of the letter it seems that the co has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions.
nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the co to the branch office.
even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept.
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sowhatnow
so, according to that letter, if you were a man who had done some time in jail in the past, and then accepted a study at the door
progressed up the ladder, and got baptised, you could never ne a ministerial servant of elder. because apparently now your prior jw life disqualifies you.
hmmm.
so the co comes along and 'approves' or 'disapproves' someone he knows nothing about.
wow, thats rich,
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does anyone have the 7/15/2013 study wt?
by sowhatnow ini watched this video this morning and in it, the person refered to the july 15 wt but does not say what lesson or page.
showing in the video where it says that 'jesus arrival to appoint the faithful slave over his belongings did not occour in 1919'.. on the jw.org website i downladed this issue and cant find where this is stated , i do not have that issue.. if someone can watch the video , its almost at the end, tell me id your issue says that.
if it is not at the jw.org website, and the statement is in the print issue then why would that be?
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Hypocrisy of a paragraph in the "Draw Close to Jehovah" book!
by stuckinarut2 in"draw close to jehovah" book.
page 106, para 20:.
20 does serving whole-souled mean that we must all spend the same amount of time and energy in the ministry?
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sowhatnow
once out who would want t ogo back under the control of an organization who teaches falsehoods?
I mean unless your truly happy and can get away with doing what you wish, then hey whatever.
sort of boring and repetitive though, nothing nothing nothing new! maybe if your a jw and have a huge social life you might be ok
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A thought about the convention: Anticipate Future Blessings...
by wisdomfrombelow inone of the parts had a skit with 3 or 4 young brothers playing a game of "what i will look forward to in the new system".
one wanted a house by the beach.
one wanted a house in the forest.
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