We don't have Secret Santa in the UK - can someone please explain?
Ta,
xandra360
wondering if anyone is interested in doing secret santa again this year.. last year was soooooo much fun.
i am quite happy to put up my hand and organise it... .
christy did such a fantastic job last year i will have a lot to live up to.. let me know what you all think.. merry christmas.
We don't have Secret Santa in the UK - can someone please explain?
Ta,
xandra360
hello this is my first post and i wanted to introduce myself so here goes.. my name is lainey, and i have not been to the meetings for about 4 years now.. i am 28 and work as a doctor in a big city university hospital as a sho.. also for my sins, i am cassies little sis, and i am staying with him for a little while, as i am signed off sick for the next month with a stress related disorder.. after the death of my older bro and my dad within the past few months, i started suffering from terrible nightmares, most of them connected in some way to my witness upbringing.. me and cassie have talked for some length and he suggested that i spend some time having a look on this site and meeting others who have had similar issues to face in life.. i hope you are all are better listeners than cassie, who tends to fall asleep when i am in the middle of talking to him.
(brothers!!!
) btw he hates being called cassie lol.. anyway i am not a big talker, so i probably wont post a lot, however i am going to scout around for a while.. thanks .
Hi Lainey (Elaine?)
Hope you enjoy your stay here.
xandra360 (aka Julia)
i'm officially single.
i don't know how to feel exactly.
thank you to everyone who has been so sweet and kind and supportive of me, you have no idea how much it's meant to me.
Oh dear Tink, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm no expert in relationships, but I blame Caspian as well ...
Big hugs from the Wicked Girls posse
Love,
xandra
after about 8 months of "silence", i took the initiative to visit my daughter, who is an active jw - i wanted to see her, as i bought some good nutritional supplements which i wanted to give to her for her children.
she was kind but somewhat distant - we embraced each other and then talked a little bit about non-essential things.
she showed me my granddaughter, who is about 10 months old - very cute and so pretty.
I think Crisis of Conscience mentions this issue, it was changed in the mid-90s. I remember it because I got burned by this after leaving school to do a variety McJobs in order to pioneer ... Once the light got brighter a lot of elders in my cong who had previously been dead set against University suddenly started saying that the Society had never been against higher education - now where have I heard that before?
xandra360
i tried a search to see if this page had been posted (and thusly did not see it).
perhaps others have missed it as well:.
http://www.escapethewatchtower.com/crackdown.htm.
It doesn't say anything in the Kingdom Ministry article about inactive ones having to declare whether they're for or against and having to DA or be DF'ed. The writer of this article completely makes that assumption up himself. Where is he getting his information from?xandra360
No, it does not, that is why the writer refers to rumors. Thanks sKally for the article. I can't understand the feeling I am having after reading this post and others that speak of the same things. I have never DAed nor have been DFed. I oppose their teachings and would never go back. Yet, i feel dread at the prospect of being asked to DA or being DFed. Why? Cassi You're right Cassi, i guess my post does sound panicky. However, I never said I was at a point where I could categorically say I would never go back to being a JW. Yes it is very unlikely but I guess there is always a small part of me that thinks, what is the alternative if it wasn't the truth? I have no problem with DA'ing myself if I'm really convinced there is nothing at all in it, but I just have totally and unequivocally reached that point yet. PS, Can someone tell me how you place previous posts in a box so you can comment on them? At the moment, you can't distinguish what are my comments and what I'm commenting on - sorry I'm a newbie. xandra360
i tried a search to see if this page had been posted (and thusly did not see it).
perhaps others have missed it as well:.
http://www.escapethewatchtower.com/crackdown.htm.
It doesn't say anything in the Kingdom Ministry article about inactive ones having to declare whether they're for or against and having to DA or be DF'ed. The writer of this article completely makes that assumption up himself. Where is he getting his information from?
xandra360
i had an idea that i could build a uk map of everyones location which would show you instantly who is in your area from jwd.. (it might be an idea to do a seperate us one aswell but i'll wait and see if this one takes off first, or if anyone from the us wants to volunteer to do that one).
(and australia but you are all in the same backyard anyway - literally!!!).
anyway, all you have to do is post or email me your username and town and i will draw you on the map above which will change gradually to include everyone!.
Hiya,
I'm living in London (originally from Brum) and would love to meet up with someone for a chinwag if poss!
xandra360
i think this is a question worth considering - just how extreme will witnesses become?.
first, the hierarchy: there are numerous accounts stretching back for years of gb members skipping meetings,.
ignoring field service and treating "vital" doctrine in a cavalier fashion.
The last year or two that I was attending meetings I was VERY uncomfortable with what I was hearing, and thought of the Kool-Aid scenario more than once. It was a relief to leave that.
This was my experience too. I was actually relieved to learn about the child abuse issue and then the UN fiasco. I could walk away that very week. It used to give me chills, reading the latest Watchtower and having thoughts of kool-aid. They seem to be getting more adamant about undivided loyalty to the Almighty Borg. Scary stuff.
Loris
What's the Kool-Aid scenario? xandra360
would you change the way you made your exit from the org and if so, how?
Baptism Nullification Letter? I've never heard of one of those - would you mind posting the text here?
Regards,
xandra360
my daughter stopped all meetings in the spring.my wife and i went to only a few meetings in the early summer and haven't been to a meeting in over 6 weeks.
my elder friend stops by my work every so often and recently has asked, "am i going to see you at the meeting tonight, min?
" i have said now on 3 occasions, "not tonight......" the other day another elder friend called me out of the blue and asked me how things are going.he said,.he'd like to come by my work and talk a little.
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to add my experience. I wasn't living at home when I decided to stop going to meetings. Once I'd made the decision though on going back home, I told one elder who was a good friend of mine and explained my reasons for doing it. At the time I thought it would be a temporary thing for about a year or so to sort my head out. Its been almost 4 years now and I've no intention of returning. Anyway, he was really good about it, and thanked me for telling me, even commenting that I wasn't obligated to give any reason as its a personal choice. In my case, I had been suffering from depression for several years and my meeting attendance was very erratic anyway so maybe he was kinder to me because of that.
Anyway, if I meet JWs now, I always tell them straight up if they ask me that I no longer attend meetings. I don't see why I should have to hide or be embarrassed about making an informed choice. Deciding to leave a religion that you sincerely thought was the truth and have devoted most of your life to is never an easy decision and anyone who really knew me in home congregation knew what type of person I am and that I would only undertake the decision after giving it serious consideration.
I've found that my close friends who are still JW have remained close (two in particular). I think they live in hope that I'll change my mind, but they both know I'm much happier now than I was when I was in the Borg. My oldest friend, who is an elder's wife, did say that I wouldn't be allowed to visit her anymore, which really hurt at the time. But I just finished reading Crisis of Conscience today and it has done a lot to help me sever my emotional ties with that religion.
I think you should do whatever you feel able to do. Eventually you'll get to a point when you're ready to make a clean break. Don't force things, you're taking a big step and should give yourself all the suppport you need, even if it must come from people still in the Borg. You'll be able to separate from them when the time is right.
All the best,
xandra360