this issue has a photo of the earth on the cover, taken from space with the title question in bold type.
i am no itellectual, but you do not need to be in order to throw some very basic criticisms at the writer .
the lead article opens with an "appeal to authority" argument, in that the poet john milton believed that paradise would be regained , along with others in history such as irenaeus of the 2nd century .
most of wt teachings and support from scriptures are as Ray Franz mentioned in his COC - mental gymnastics.
even today I am embarased when I remember trying to explain to householder where in the bible it says that Jesus came in 1914 .
elsewhere,
that is very interesting thinking; I never looked from that perspective.thanks
invictus
i have wanted to share this event with you all for the longest time, and i am finally ready.
oddly enough, i still feel ashamed that this happened to me, although i understand it wasn't my fault.
the story begins in the late seventies, and i was about twelve years old...... i lived in a very small town in the midwest.
little witch,
I am so sorry for your hurting. your story was so powerful and emotional that I almost felt like you then.
from my experience in wt I learned at least one valuble thing - listen and learn from kids- they see world and events around them with pure eyes.
when our oldest child was in a kindergarden she told everyone that if they do not go to kingdom hall and became witnesses they will be destroyed at armageddon. well, the same day I was talked to by her teacher who was very tactfull but basically her message was keep your religion for yourself. belive me I was upset not because what teacher said but what my kid said to other kids. that was first time I looked behind " curtain" of my cherished beliefs.suddenly they become to resemble the same ones we ran away from during civil war in yugo; one nation can only exist if they extreminate all others around them - here, only one religion survives,whole mankind destroyed.
still took me 7 years to get out of that cult.
invictus
i look at what many have gone through here as spiritual terrorism.
inability to remember
talk to people - talk is the most healing thing you can do.
"Talk to people - talk is the most healing thing you can do. Talk it out. You may have to tell your story over and over again, many, many times before it loses much of its pain. Each time you tell your story and receive someone's caring, you will be healing yourself."
that is so true and forum like this helps immensely especially when person is not in contact with other " survivors". like in our case, posters on this forum are only ex-jws that we can excange our toughts and it does help a lot.
thank you for this helpful information.
invictus
well ive been studying with the jehovah witness for about 3 yrs now and im really thinking about making myself a publisher and i want to know is this website real and why are people talking about hiding their names what are they hiding it for shouldnt you be happy that youre studying with the jw and the jehovah called on you.
and what's up with all the swearing havent you thought about keeping up good lanquage in case someone visits this site and see that and whats up with the half naked pictures of women whats really going on
shanna,
welcome and I hope you stay long enough to read people`s experiences it is very educational. what you read here is normal feelings from ordinary people hurt by so called christian organization and its policies - watchtower.
think loooong and hard before you get baptized and please ask some question like UN, paedophilia, shunning and watch for their reaction.
invictus
just thought i would come by and say hi.
i'm new here and very new to the idea that the wtb&ts isn't the truth.
i'm not all the way there, but if anything, reading these boards help me get over some of my anxiety attacks.
welcome to the forum. I hope you will find nedeed information to help you make change in your life. change is good.
" I would rather choose a life with questions I cannot answer, than a life with questions I am not allowed to ask"
enjoy your stay.
invictus
a poster recently brought up an interesting topic... about how the wtbts always makes big deals out of nothing.. case in point?.
how jesus was crusified on a tree, rather than a cross.
i mean, does it really matter that much?
I never understood their explanation about growing beard.
some time ago we visited Port Elgin congregation and there were two brothers who had beards - one was even handling mikes.when we got to our congregation and asked an elder about that he said that the congregation was probably spiritually weak?! to allow that,yet he never gave answer to why is it wrong to have beard?
invictus
wednesday is the big day.i am going in for rotator cuff surgery and i am very nervous.i have lived in pain now for 6months not wanting to do this but the time has come.i am also going to have bone spurs dug out that have grown into the cuff.
the scarriest part is the pain ,i am in so much now and i know it will be worse.wish me luck and lots of pain killers.
kls
good luck with your surgery tomorrow.
take care.
invictus
whispered on the grapevine in oz is that a former elder has sued a body of elders for wrongful df and won!
the plaintiff claimed harrassment and physical abuse by the elders.
apparently the court awarded costs amounting to around $30,000 australian to the plaintiff.
what else can we expect from the organization that lies to its members, protects molesters, victimizes over and over again abused children and their families, but to show their true face - cowards.
I hope there is going to be more "glad tidings" like this case.
thank you posting this.
invictus
have you heard of chuck missler?
i just got his booklet " hidden treasures in the bible", and this is an interesting statement:.
( comparing names in hebrew and their english meaning).
mizpah,
I agree with you. if somebody have a need, desire or faith to believe in God they should be allowed to do so without being scrutinized. I still have need to believe and that does not make me foolish or ignorant just different .
take care.
invictus
it's been a lousy month so far.
first my grandmother died at the ripe old age of 80. my father, who has had a serious alcohol problem for the last 20 years finally died in his sleep on sunday night.
sadly, the only emotion i feel for him is anger.
sorry that you are going through some tough times
and it is so true that kids can make you smile because they are so innocent,pure and honest and their emotions are real not calculated.
our kids were therapy to us when we were down. enjoy in your beautiful girl and I wish you all the best
invictus
