I think a lot of things can be put down to co-incidence. I mean how many times did you go to a meeting or read a magazine and it discussed a certain subject but you didn't give much thought to it. Then when you pray for answers and there is a meeting or a publication on it it seems like an answer. In reality you are just more sensitive to information that has been pushed all along.
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Have you ever honestly had Jehovah ansure your prayer?
by Singing Man inyes have you ever honestly, had jehovah ansure your prayer in a way that told you it was from him and not some trick of a wanting heart?
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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!
by AwakenedAndFree indid you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
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Well if you go biblically JamesThomas, he won't forgive our sins if we don't love him and the penalty for sin is death.
That being said I don't go biblically personally.
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Lack of response
by donkey in.
it would seem obvious that a low number of responders to a thread is indicative that the thread is of little or no interest to the other posters on the board.
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Mysterious
It depends on when it's posted sometimes and who is on at the time. I also find I tend to ignore posts that have large (or lacking) paragraphs.
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The "Critical Times" Con-Game - Dec. 15 Watchtower
by metatron in"all this testifies that we are living in 'critical times'" - 2 tim.
3: 1-5 (dec. 15, 2003 wt pg.
they never get tired of repeating this deception, do they?.
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Mysterious
Society has always faced challenges through history though. We overcame the old ones and now we face new ones. It's not that it's getting worse, it's just that there are always challenges to overcome.
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Help/Advice getting out of a talk..
by Mysterious infor some reason they lost my name or something for talks, haven't done one in a year.
anyway i got assigned one and i sure as hell don't want to give it since i'm trying to get out as is.
i also don't want to make the talk but there is no way i can turn it over to someone else with my mom around.
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lol I wish I had the guts to do that. If mom wasn't a dub I would do something like that to go out with a bang. But alas although I only have a month to go, I still have a month to go.
I think I'll just rework exactly what she has, rephrasing only with no major changes. And be too sick to go. Go to bed early monday night. Don't eat supper tuesday (hey dad will feed me when mom leaves), go to bed and fake a terrible headache and stomach cramps. Or something..I hope that works.
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Help/Advice getting out of a talk..
by Mysterious infor some reason they lost my name or something for talks, haven't done one in a year.
anyway i got assigned one and i sure as hell don't want to give it since i'm trying to get out as is.
i also don't want to make the talk but there is no way i can turn it over to someone else with my mom around.
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Simon, as if mom has ever let me own anything like that, sorry. Hehe.
shamus, it's not the congregation that's forcing me, it's my mother who I live with.
BluesBrother my householder is unable to do it so my mother volunteered to be my householder.
Gretchen956, I'd personally love to do something like that but I'm trying not to make waves with mom, she's already harshly on my case and I expect it'll get worse when I come tell her about a few things next month.
Gadget, you don't have to worry about parentS, just parent. Dad's on the board actually (Poztate) and supports me getting out of the organization.
Odrade, I hope I can pull that off it's my current plan.
HoChiMin, I've had enough on the dubs take of scripture. I know what they teach and I know I don't believe it, end of story.
mpatrick, how very true.
See I got the talk a month ago, and I stalled doing anything on it for two weeks. I was hoping it would all just go away..Then I got sick and had to miss class for a few days, it was hell catching up on everything. Two weeks later I am finally caught up. Mom was raving at me about how I seem to be putting spiritual things last in my life and then goes on about how college, and work, and fun will not buy me everlasting life. Last night I was a bit sick to my stomach so I ended up not going out in service today which brought me another rant since I only got 4 hours this month.
I slept past noon and moped around the house. I was told I can do work (for my employer) or work on my talk only, no fun time today and I'm not even allowed to do my classwork.
Mom thought there was no way I would get it done and it wasn't fair for the overseer so when I got up this morning she had done it. But she wants me to spend 2 hours minimum "making it my own". And I STILL don't want to give it.
I'm not sure how well the illness thing will work. She thinks I'm not really sick, that it's just stress. Well duh. I'm hiding my post secondary plans, my religion plans, and my sexual orientation. That's enough to cause anyone stress around a loyal dub mother. It'll all come out just after Christmas, nothing like starting the new year off right. But in the meantime I just have to stick with it and do the act.
Mom's all stressing over me not being spiritual enough and all that. I am spiritual, I'm just not dubbie based spiritual.
Anyway. We'll go with the hysterics/sick with nerves thing. I think that will work best. I've never really had to fake something like that though, I don't want to be found out that's for sure. I need some good things to throw in in midhysterics. Things I can think of are not thinking it's fair to give a talk that's not mine, or not being able to stand all those people staring at me, I could use more ideas though.
Oh and for whoever asked. It's about how Jesus' ransom sacrifice affects us. There was NO source material, it was a research talk. Which made it even worse to think about doing. Oh and my setting is explaining to a worldy relative why I *want* to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Help/Advice getting out of a talk..
by Mysterious infor some reason they lost my name or something for talks, haven't done one in a year.
anyway i got assigned one and i sure as hell don't want to give it since i'm trying to get out as is.
i also don't want to make the talk but there is no way i can turn it over to someone else with my mom around.
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Naw dont think mom is quite that stupid. I don't think you can get chicken pox again unless you had a very mild case, and I didn't. And when you get them as an adult it's called shingles I think.
It's very tempting to simply collapse to the floor moments before having to get ready and start sobbing and just not stop until she leaves.
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Gay-bashing Alliance MP
by Waymores Ghost in.
me thinks the recent gay-bashing by an alliance mp was not driven by an anti-gay agenda so much as it was a politically motivated move to ensure that the alliance and tory parties never merge.
but he's still a dick-head.. wg
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Mysterious
I can't believe he was treated so leniently, he should have been GONE. Stephen Harper tries to play things down more but he's on the "gays can change if they want to" side as well, perhaps this is why he didn't punish his MP too harshly.
For anyone who didn't read the story:
http://www.canoe.ca/NationalTicker/CANOE-wire.Alliance-Spencer-Gays.html
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Help/Advice getting out of a talk..
by Mysterious infor some reason they lost my name or something for talks, haven't done one in a year.
anyway i got assigned one and i sure as hell don't want to give it since i'm trying to get out as is.
i also don't want to make the talk but there is no way i can turn it over to someone else with my mom around.
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Mysterious
For some reason they lost my name or something for talks, haven't done one in a year. Anyway I got assigned one and I sure as hell don't want to give it since I'm trying to get out as is. I also don't want to make the talk but there is no way I can turn it over to someone else with my mom around. It's this Tuesday (haven't even started it yet). My policy is general coasting until the end of December and then get out. Giving a talk is not in this plan and I simply refuse.
The problem of course being the guilt trip/duty/no good reason not to do it that my mother will use. I know I could just say I'm not giving it but that's not realistic at all, it would just make waves with mom and the tsunamis will be hitting by Christmas as is.
SO. I'm looking for some way to get out of it. Can anyone give any advice on a similuated crisis of nerves or such. I'll do just about anything, if it gets me out of going to the meeting that night as well so much the better!
Help..advice..anyone?
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Were There ANY Advantages To Being a Jehovah's Witness?
by minimus in...didn't have to buy any christmas presents......
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Well I did learn how to find/quote a lot of bible verses. There is a girl in my class that I have friendly debates with sometimes, she is SO christian she makes dubs look postively lazy. (gasp) She admitted that I can quote the bible better than she can. (just about made me faint!)