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  PAEDOPHILE in Llantwit Major Congregation-UK

  by kat7302 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there is a paedophile in the llantwit major congregation in south glamorgan,uk.

  he was disfellowshipped from barry congregation following a judicial meeting where approximately 20 sisters aged between 9 and upwards gave statements accusing him of alledgely commiting......child abuse, indecent behaviour and rape.

  he of course denied all allegations and the elders did their best to protect him and took years to finally get the situation sorted but eventually, they had no way in which to protect him anymore so he was removed from the congregation.

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  rosalyn

  What guts girl? To know at age 15 that you couldn't belong. I was getting myself baptized at age 15. I still believed it the right religion when they were disfellowshipping me. I just wanted to put my husband and children first and did not want to live in a divided household. I remember even saying how I'll just have to go down at Armageddon. guffaw guffaw....We are all still here.

  I married someone who was studying and going through the questions for baptism. But before he got to the third set of questions he came out with the statement ..."you people don't even know who Jesus is....he is not the archangel Michael". Needless to say I was devastated. To make a long story short I did end up leaving the organization and was disfellowshipped in 1985 for not wanting to be acknowledged as one of JWs because I did want to keep birthdays and all the celebrations with these kids of mine and I wasn't going to take them away from their father and have them just give him token love that the organization advocates.

  Finally in 1992 I started looking into some the anti witness literature and sometimes think how stupid. But I was so brainwashed and I am not going to apologize for it. We all have different steps to take in our life.

  I am afraid that my marriage did not last, however.After 22 years we separated. This occurred last year and it will be permanent. There were other issues being dealt with all through our married life. My upbringing as a witness didn't help matters any. But I will always give him the earthly credit for dragging me kicking and screaming out that "cult"

  The confounded steps we have to take along this journey are sometimes pretty hard. I am in a great state of mind now but it wasn't always like this. The suggestion about taking one day a time, even one minute at a time is so helpful. Just keep plodding ok?
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  They do too go beyond what is written...

  by Marilyn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  tdogg started this on another thread.

  his comments were:.

  i wish i had that quote when i was told i had to wear a tie and suit to meeting, when i played chess, when i bought star wars figures, when i had to do at least 5 hrs of service a month, make a comment at every meeting, not wear top-sider shoes, never see a rated r movie, wear a no-blood bracelet, highlight all the answers in my watchtower, not play organised sports, not salute the flag,....anyone want to take over?......

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  rosalyn

  just a quick add on....chicken stock cubes....lecithin....if it didn't say vegetable lecithin it could have had blood in it. I am guessing on this one.

  And then there was the thing about white bread....once again the lecithin problem...it's an a emulsifier. If it didn't say vegetable ........

  And I just remembered one other Nestles Quick.....Alot of companies changed their labeling so we could eat their stuff

  this could lead into quite the discussion on the blood issue which I truly have an issue with but another time and I guess another spot on this forum too.

  ROSALYN
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  They do too go beyond what is written...

  by Marilyn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  tdogg started this on another thread.

  his comments were:.

  i wish i had that quote when i was told i had to wear a tie and suit to meeting, when i played chess, when i bought star wars figures, when i had to do at least 5 hrs of service a month, make a comment at every meeting, not wear top-sider shoes, never see a rated r movie, wear a no-blood bracelet, highlight all the answers in my watchtower, not play organised sports, not salute the flag,....anyone want to take over?......

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  Sirona

  I wish my computer had a printer. I would love to copy your post. You are bang on with the nonsense and contadictions. Well spoken. and I am sure there are many others that we could add to the list.
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  An interesting quote from a book

  by kat7302 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after a visit to the doctor to discuss my personal experiences and metal stability (or not as the case may be!!!!!!!!

  she recommended that i buy a certain book.

  im not sure about whether im allowed to mention the author of the title (ironically enough, it has the same title as one of the jw books!

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  rosalyn

  Here in Ontario there were children taken away by Social Services for use straps on their kids. Weren't witnesses. I haven't been following the legislation on spanking but the jist I am getting from the news is that parents beware. Physical punishment taboo. Seeing that I haven't been in a Kingdom Hall (2 funerals and a wedding don't count) I don't know what goes on now.

  I saw some weird stuff in the organization as regards to punishment when I was growing. I remember going to the top elder when I was about 15(can't remember what the position was termed for that particular time frame) and saying "can't you stop her from spanking that little that little boy of hers so much?" His answer was cannot get involved. I remember one little girl who got hauled back to the library ( the punishment room)at practically every meeting . She was playing with her plastic hair bando and broke it accidentally. Those parents were particularly cruel.. I often wonder what happened with that child.

  My Dad used the wooden spoon alot on me but it was a spanking not a beating. Of course it wouldn't help that I would hit back and I I pinched him a few times too. It was the only way he knew how to deal with my stubborness. Oh yeah and there was the mouth being washed out with soap. For being mouthy. I didn't swear in those days....heaven forbid. My mother, on the other hand, was able to reason with me. She had the ability to talk to almost anyone and had a compassionate nature so between the two of the them I had punishment and discipline. I think both are needed however lighter on the physical punishment. Being hit can really make a kid mad and rebel even more.

  It would be interesting to see how the organization and the law work out on this one. But of course if they keep the child abuse ped cases out of the hands of the law, then most certainly they will do the same with punishment.

  Oh I am so glad I am out.
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  PAEDOPHILE in Llantwit Major Congregation-UK

  by kat7302 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there is a paedophile in the llantwit major congregation in south glamorgan,uk.

  he was disfellowshipped from barry congregation following a judicial meeting where approximately 20 sisters aged between 9 and upwards gave statements accusing him of alledgely commiting......child abuse, indecent behaviour and rape.

  he of course denied all allegations and the elders did their best to protect him and took years to finally get the situation sorted but eventually, they had no way in which to protect him anymore so he was removed from the congregation.

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  rosalyn

  That is most distressing...I hate to be one sided, but, once again it's women and children that get the least protection isn't it? I know times are changing but the progress towards looking after the innocent just isn't moving fast enough.

  I grew up in the organization and never heard of anything like this. My dad was an elder. If it happened I never knew about it. But I am not surprised at all because they are so good at keeping the rot hidden.

  Recently I had the opportunity to meet up with two of the younger ones who have left the organization. The one girl was actually my little flower girl at my wedding. She approached me in the grocery store. I gave her my phone number and then we met up in a store where she is employed. She took my phone number again. Don't want to push her into visiting me.

  Then I also had another younger one come and visit me for tea before she moved to the west coast of Canada. I remember her Mom and Dad who are still in the city I live in. She told me about some of her situations with the violence in the home between her dad and her brother.

  I moved away from the city I grew up in for about ten years and have moved back...( I was disfellowshipped on the grounds of apostasy while away) I have sought out and accepted counselling in the past at one of the local clinics.Quite the adjustment moving back.... Almost felt like Daniel in the lion's den. One of the Social Workers there told me about all the kids that have been kicked out of their witness homes. He sounded most distressed. And it turns out that I knew many of these precious little ones from years ago. I still have a daughter at home and must look after her interests but I hope that I can be somewhat of a stabilizing influence on these young women if and when they contact me. I guess we shall see what we shall see.

  I have jotted down your email and hope to be touch soon

  Thank you for sharing the story even though unhappy.
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  What a month, I need help!

  by Disposable Hero in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have not been on here for awhile, so much has happened.

  some may remember my story in which i did a lot of research on the society and never joined.

  i knew when i was dealing with the elders i had stumped them many times.

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  rosalyn

  Oh dear man you are definitely in a tough situation. Sounds like she wants stability with desperation after being out "in the world" and you have to admit that for the most part JWs can be a haven. But that refuge can comes with some pretty thick strings. Convincing her that you are a stable and caring man without this religion to back you up will be the trick.

  Matters of the heart are so delicate and with an organization like jws meddling in the background of this relationship it won't be an easy decision .....wish you the best in what ever you decide
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  U Win Some...And...You Lose Some

  by D8TA in

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  http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/78433_nopledge13.shtml

  tooooo bad.. d8ta

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  rosalyn

  I was told recently by an ex Jw (who gets all the literature so as to keep updated) that it was okay to salute flag if your conscience allows.....I guess this fellow must a very"Bible trained conscience" or I should I say "Watchtower trained conscience" Jws don't usually try to get jobs in that type of work do they. I wonder if they will let him stay on and clean the latrine? It's better he get out of that line of work anyways because I would think there would be some side long glance from his fellow worshippers.

  I am still somewhat steamed about being allowed to do alternative service in time of war. Orderlies, cooks etc. It's now okay if you want to do that......Think of those jws who years ago did time in prisons and concentration camps for being so neutral. Think of their sacrafices. What a slap in the face.
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  Jaracz Witnesses

  by messenger in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well it appears jaracz is alive and well and calling the shots.

  the df article in the august km is typical of a new breed of "witnesses" that started back in the mid 1980s when tj started molding the organization into his image.

  first it was dumbing down the talks with no illustrations or creativity, then came the canned scriptures with the over simplified sermons at the door.

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  Avengers

  You are so right about not acting out our frustrations about the organization tactics. Anything negative they can use towards us they will.
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  Hardline on disfellowshipped ones

  by eyeslice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  once again a hard line is being taken on shunning disfellowshipped and disassociated ones.

  perhaps this is some sort of backlash against the recent adverse dateline publicity in the us, the forthcoming pananorama programme in the uk and problems with a number of influential ones leaving the organization.

  the text below is from the august km insert and the meeting part is to be handled by a "well qualified" elder with the paragraphs being read by a "capable reader".

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  rosalyn

  I just spent a few minutes typing some comments and then lost everything I wrote. Oh well. Shall try again later. All I can say is when a person is in a fragile emotional state the organization's flip flopping can really mess people up. Now I shall send this and hope it takes.
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  ...oh my head!

  by dmouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...why is that clock ticking so loud, doesn't it know i have a king-sized hangover?.

  ahem, i do apologize for that less than sober post yesterday.

  you see i had been celebrating with my cohorts.. this was me yesterday afternoon, graduating with a ba (hons):.

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  rosalyn

  congratulations.

  This will be my first post so hope I have this right. What did you major in?