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144000 does it make sense?
by scrubmaster in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i wish we there was a search function on this board, i am sure this topic has been addressed.

but when and if you believe in the bible would it make since that there was less then a 144,000 anointed christians in the early christians times.

i mean the bible states the whole world at the time had been filled with the the teachings of the christians.
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Would Jesus ?
by scrubmaster in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i have been thinking about this for a while and while a lot of things posted here deal with directing at the wrong things in the org -- here is another way to look at things.

for those that do not believe in the bible or jesus -- this will not be relevant...... if jesus were here on the earth today in charge of the congregation - -would he give the elders a flock book and then tell them this is what is to be used, with out the friends knowledge when it came to judicial cases.

would he threaten ones who look at it?
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This would be a good Question from readers about Judicial Committees
by scrubmaster in
1. jw
2. experiences
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this would be a good questions from readers.......having read several scriptures about how the judges heard judicial case in the public court yard..so that all would see that true justice was served and know why a person was being stoned if it should come to type of punishment...what scriptural bases does the society have for conducting judicial cases in secret and then expect everyone to shun(stone) some one with out knowing what the crime was.

i would love so see what scriptures if any they could come up with.
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Raymond Franz
by scrubmaster in
1. jw
2. friends
would some one please send a reply to me with raymond franz email address.

i would like to email him to think him so much for his books.
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Ray Franz
by scrubmaster in
1. jw
2. experiences
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i am sure this has been asked before -- but has anyone here every spoke to ray franz or email him.

if so i would like to email him or call her.
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Question about Judical committees
by scrubmaster in
1. jw
2. experiences
if a committed has been formed for an allegation of serious sin and the person does not agree with the charge is there anything the person can do to let the elders now they do not agree with the charge and if the person is not happy with the three elders choosen for the committee is there anything that can be done before the first meeting.

also a side point, this same person presented evidence of their scriptural freedom just like the society's said is required, the elders had to deliberate over this information even though it was present just as the society stated, my friend went ahead and got married and now all of a sudden the previous information was put on the back burner and my wife and friend now face a judical committee for adultery.

is this the way elders all ways handle cases, they throw out any information which made be in the person's favor and go right for what can be found written in black and white so they do not have to think?
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Adultery can only happen at night - Scripture to support this statement
by scrubmaster in
1. jw
2. friends
strong circumstantial evidence, such as pregnancy or evidence (testified to by at least two witnesses) that the accused stayed all night in the same house with a person of .

the opposite sex (or in the same house with a known homosexual ) under improper circumstances, is acceptable.

i was told that there is a scriptural principle for the above quote from the "pay attention to the flock book".
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Letter to elders when marriage mate confess adultery
by scrubmaster in
1. jw
2. friends
i understand from talking to some one who had some knowledge of the situation but could not find the reference material , that the society has something in writing which says if a person believes they are scripturally free and that they are willing to stand before jehovah and face the consquences they can get married -- (this in effect leave the elders out of the equation and they can not do anything to you.

) does anyone know where this reference can be found -- i need it as soon as possible.

i can not find it.
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Letter to elders stating scripturally free to be married-need the ref mat.
by scrubmaster in
1. jw
2. friends
i understand from talking to some one who was an elder, that the society has something in writing which says if a person believes they are scripturally free and that they are willing to stand before jehovah and face the consquences they can get married -- this in effect leave the elders out of the equation and they can not do anything to you.

does anyone know where this reference can be found -- i need it as soon as possible.

i can not find it.
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Proof of adultery to get scriptural freedom
by scrubmaster in
1. jw
2. experiences
i am in a situation where my ex-wife left me.

i had survellaince done on her place by two members of my family.

this was done over a several month time frame.