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  If Morrisey Was a Jdub

  by gitasatsangha in

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  in my ongoing series of new kingdom melodies: .

  song 312: jah knows i'm miserable now.

  i was happy in the haze of my bethel days.

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  This is the funniest thread ever! Clever!!! I love Moz but have not the talent to do what I have read here! MORE PLEASE!!!!!!!
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the Real 2-29-04 WT Study (last wk s/b 2-22)

  by blondie in

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  god?s way of ruling is by love.

  if that would be the case, wouldn?t we really be asking ourselves the question, ?do we really want the rulership of god??

  "everlasting life in a righteous new world.".

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  Blondie, Nice job as usual. I found this interesting in paragraph 6:

  "Do you seek and take full advantage of opportunities to speak to strangers about Jehovah's kingship?"

  "It is urgent that people learn about Jehovah's everlasting kingship..."

  Out in the "ministry" we spent more time deciding who was going to work with who, who was going to drive, who had to leave at 11 AM, thus stranding their partner who had to be picked up by another group, driving from one end of the territory to the next, talking for at LEAST 10 minutes before getting out the car to do a return visit (whom we knew was not home), stopping for coffee breaks, making runs to the post office, etc. In the meantime, people would pass us all the time on the street, and instead of taking an "opportunity", we'd let them walk by and continuted to talk (gossip) to one another. If it were so URGENT, why don't jw's act like it?
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  Say Something Only A Jehovah's Witness Would Say

  by minimus in

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  i'll start.

  "at least i know god's name is jehovah!

  ".......any others?

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  "we must support the arrangement"

  what ever arrangement that might be, meetings for field service, going to your assigned bookstudy despite being assigned to a group all the way across town when there was one right around the corner etc..
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  A question for former pioneers.

  by JV in

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  everytime you go to an assembly or to a convention or the co pays a visit, there's always a call for people to pioneer.

  they always drag out a couple of pioneers on to the stage and "interview" them.

  the one question they always ask is if the pioneers have any regrets over pioneering.

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  I pioneered for one year and that was it for me. I did so horrible on the time that I was asked to discontinue (as I imagine I was bringing the average of the other pioneers down). Well after that I realized that whenever I felt like it, I could spend 90 hours in the ministry (trust me I never felt like it), and yet still be a "regular publisher". Point being, PIONEER is only a title, such lilke Manager or VP is a title in a corporation. Its there to distinguish, and for those with an improper view of themselves, its there to elevate.

  TO be honest, so much time was spent driving from one end of the territory to the other looking for return visits who were NEVER home (why would they be, people have JOBS) and in the meantime we were passing people left and right on the street. I thought the point was to TALK TO PEOPLE, but it seemed like the sisters enjoyed talking (gossiping) to each other more. And that is why I question the year totals. How much of this time is really spent PREACHING? Even people who work on projects get to count some time in their hour total. Thats not time spent preaching, so don't present it as such! Misleading!

  Did I regret that year? Yes. I did so horrible with the time (the quota was 90 hours, but I was doing about 20) that it led me into a tailspin and a depression that I never really recovered from. I felt like a failure, not good enough, and despite the fact that my 20 hours was TWICE the national average, I was made to feel like a complete failure and I even told the elders that I will never pioneer again.
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  To the lurkers: On the Outside of the "Spiritual Paradise" and Looking In

  by Lonestar13 in

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  to all lurkers, doubters, and curious ones.

  you must be here for a reason, and that is why this post is dedicated to you.

  i have attended a few meetings after being disfellowshipped.

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  Puternut: What a schedule of "theocratic activity" there!!!! And to think that its never enough. not encouraging at all. As a pioneer I faced the same task. How can I get all of this done, and still work so as not to be an "unnecessary burden"? I realized that I could not so I gave up pioneering, much to the disappointment of family. But it was the same family members that claimed I was doing "nothing to help out around the house" Years of discouragement set in after that.

  Dustyb: How could I forget about that! Yes I am dead to them, but they are the spiritual deadbeats, feeding themselves on a very UNbalanced "theocratic" diet.
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  To the lurkers: On the Outside of the "Spiritual Paradise" and Looking In

  by Lonestar13 in

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  to all lurkers, doubters, and curious ones.

  you must be here for a reason, and that is why this post is dedicated to you.

  i have attended a few meetings after being disfellowshipped.

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  no ambition and no personal goals. only "spiritual goals" which never seem to be attained with the constant "do more do more" bashing. Makes for very unhappy people indeed!!!
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  Looking Back, How Did You Really Feel About "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

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  did you love it?

  were you in awe of it?

  were you a true believer?

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  I had a sense of awe for 3 days out of the year (or 4 when I was younger). And then as soon as the convention was over and back to the routine at the home congregation, I'd just go along with everyone else until I woke up and realized I had a mind of my own.

  I was never a true believer. Just good at pretending to be one.
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  To the lurkers: On the Outside of the "Spiritual Paradise" and Looking In

  by Lonestar13 in

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  to all lurkers, doubters, and curious ones.

  you must be here for a reason, and that is why this post is dedicated to you.

  i have attended a few meetings after being disfellowshipped.

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  To all lurkers, doubters, and curious ones. You must be here for a reason, and that is why this post is dedicated to you. (And everyone else too)

  I have attended a few meetings after being disfellowshipped. Yes, although the act of df?ing was taken, I am not ?the disfellowshipped girl?, the plague, a loathsome disease that can be caught if I dare touch the microphone and pass it to someone sitting in the back row with me. I am a human being, a person, I am who I am. The onus is on you to figure that out for yourselves instead of letting a group of men influence your view of me. Yes, I am asking you to think for yourselves, something of course that the elders will not appreciate, but nonetheless you will be happier for it.

  In my somewhat ?birds eye view? from the back of the kingdom hall, the row of banishment, I have come to notice things that I did not notice from the other side. You are the ones that are in, the ones who claim to have the ?spiritual paradise?, the ones who would never do anything to squander that precious privilege and end up in the back row with ?people like me?. So my question: Why don?t you look like it? According to the platform speakers, I am the one that?s supposed to be unhappy, long faced and downtrodden. However I look around and see some of the unhappiest looking people I have ever encountered. It makes me wonder, is this what you really want?

  You may be wondering what does a d?fed person do now that they have ?cut themselves off from gods congregation?? Simply, I still get up in the morning, shower and go to work just like I did before. However the time freed up from not going in field service, and maintaining ?friendships? with people whom I had not much in common with in the first place, is spent on improving myself. I read more of what you would call ?secular? books, exercise more, and challenge myself to a greater degree. I am teaching myself another language, and I will be going to college (finally!). I am less critical and judgmental of others and because of that I have met some fantastic people, people that I would not have known otherwise if I continued to submit to the jw practice of labeling. Oh but according to the org, I should be doing all the things that ?worldly people? do. Perhaps that is what you expect when you pass me on the street, afraid to look me in the eye. I thought I was the one who is supposed to ?hang my head in shame?? Why are you doing that? Perhaps it is because you have searched for yourselves and could not find any scriptural basis for your actions?

  Perhaps?

  It is now to the point of intrigue that I attend meetings. I observe and take notes of what I see and hear. I may very well put my observations completely in writing one day.

  LS
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  Nice encounter with a JDub

  by BoozeRunner in

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  hey folks, i havent posted in a while, but this experience was worth telling.

  last wednesday while at work (a family retail shoe store),.

  an older sister from my last congregation came in to make a purchase.

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  One of the worst parts about being DF'd is to have the minor unbaptized children shun you because their parents tell them that is the right thing to do. You can tell that as children it is so against their nature, but they want to "please" their parents and jehovah. It is totally sending the wrong message to children (adults as well, but as was said, more and more are starting to lighten up on their stance) who in the next breath would be told to mind their manners and respect their elders by speaking to them. No wonder so many JW "wonder children" self destruct in their teenage years.

  I did have a nice encounter however, a sister who owns a business that I frequent still treats me as the valued and loyal customer that I am. As long as we don't talk about the KH or "da troof". Fine by me as I didn't talk about such things before getting d'fed anyhow.

  LS
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  Nine Year Old Appreciates 1924 JW Book

  by Latte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from our readers

  awake august 22, 2003

  faith under trail

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  Lonestar13

  LoverofTruth - right on the money with that one!!!!

  " The most beautiful part of the article was his recollection of the vivid mental picture of paradise described..."

  recollection? Vivid mental picture? what?!?!?!