(Ammcullogh: Is it "a private place that is usually open to the public" on Sundays, too? Or is it ALWAYS open to the public for the PUBLIC talk?)
ummmmm, no, a tree does not make a sound if it falls when no one is around.
amccullough
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Arrested for going kingdumb and dumber hall!
by D wiltshire inarrested for going kingdumb hall!.
last night (3/21) the mountain view (ca) police arrested me.. this happened as i was attending the sunnyvale congregation service meeting.. i was dfd last july and was told by the elders the conditions for reinstatement were meeting attendance, repentance along with not speaking to anyone or anyone speaking to me (shunning at its finest).
(btw, i was dfd for apostasy).
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Having Fun With Dubs: A How Too Guide
by Mindchild intoday i took a few minutes to do a extensive search of the web for ideas of how people have "enjoyed" playing with jehovah's witnesses and other religious solicitors when they come to their door.
i found a few sites that were quite funny.
links and ideas follow.... 1. how to dodge religious solicitors, from the door, a christian magazine.
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amccullough
That is pretty funny...it reminds me of a top 20 most annoying things to do list I once read.
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Arrested for going kingdumb and dumber hall!
by D wiltshire inarrested for going kingdumb hall!.
last night (3/21) the mountain view (ca) police arrested me.. this happened as i was attending the sunnyvale congregation service meeting.. i was dfd last july and was told by the elders the conditions for reinstatement were meeting attendance, repentance along with not speaking to anyone or anyone speaking to me (shunning at its finest).
(btw, i was dfd for apostasy).
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amccullough
Screw them wankers,it is a public place and you can sit there whenever you want!
Umm, it's actually not a public place. Its a private place that is usually open to the public. That is why they were able to call the police to have him removed.
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Arrested for going kingdumb and dumber hall!
by D wiltshire inarrested for going kingdumb hall!.
last night (3/21) the mountain view (ca) police arrested me.. this happened as i was attending the sunnyvale congregation service meeting.. i was dfd last july and was told by the elders the conditions for reinstatement were meeting attendance, repentance along with not speaking to anyone or anyone speaking to me (shunning at its finest).
(btw, i was dfd for apostasy).
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amccullough
Sounds to me like you both acted like idiots. What is the point of going to the meeting? To try and distract them? It will only strengthen their convictions and beliefs that you are evil. It also sounds like the elder didn't think things through. If he was smart, he would have just ignored you.
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Why obey bible counsel and Killer S.F. dogs
by discuss incouple was convicted of.
murder for the killer dogs they had.. there are also rumors that the couple was involved.
sexually, with the two dogs.. do you think it started with heavy petting?.
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amccullough
I think you would have been within the boundaries of true justice, if you or your husband immediately went and bought a gun and shot the dog without the owner's consent.
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Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave A "Clas...
by stevieb1 ini am shortly to have a discussion with a jw elder regarding the society's interpretation of the "faithful and discreet slave" i have already got some points i would like to share, but here i am asking for your collective assistance in refuting logically and scripturally the watchtower argument regarding the "slave class".. one comment that was raised was if we are told to get out of false religion (babylon the great) where are we to go to?.
please post serious and well reasoned replies if possible.
your brother in christ.
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amccullough
Steak dinner , baked patotoe, fresh toss salad and a nice glass of White wine.
I think a red would go better...
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Shunning is the big story
by joelbear ini just read the story about the family in oregon, gone forever, because of the pressure of shunning.. in my opinion, shunning is the big story about jehovah's witnesses.
shunning and the fear of shunning is what enables the control of victims of child abuse.
shunning is what destroys families.
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amccullough
THIS is where you went wrong, you made an assupmtion about my statement. My statement neither implied nor suggested that JWs are NOT capable of being mature and loving. That was what *YOU* read into it. Did the statement perhaps strike a bit too close to home?
Please accept my deepest apologies. I am glad to hear that you think that JWs can be just as MATURE, THINKING, and LOVING as anyone else.
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Shunning is the big story
by joelbear ini just read the story about the family in oregon, gone forever, because of the pressure of shunning.. in my opinion, shunning is the big story about jehovah's witnesses.
shunning and the fear of shunning is what enables the control of victims of child abuse.
shunning is what destroys families.
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amccullough
Whew! Excuse me as I recover from having LDH "call me on it..." and then "trounce my ass." I've never faced such difficult debate.
You said:
1. I stated a general concept that applies to ALL human beings, JW included.
I assumed you were excluding JWs as you compared MATURE and THINKING human beings to the JW system which is "perfect for babies."MATURE and THINKING human beings have their actions controlled by their concern for the well-being of their fellowman, not because they're gonna get punished.
2. Due to your inherent JW persecution complex, you automatically assumed that I excluded JWs from that concept.
Then your next post included:And I can tell you right now, if they people you know are JWs, they are NOT smarter than me. They may SEEM to be independent thinkers, but the fact that they're still looking to a man made organization for God's approval makes them DUMBASSES.
This backed up my assumption.I'm not sure where this is going or why I am even responding to you, perhaps in personal defense to getting my "ass trounced."
In review, you made implications that JWs are not as intelligent as folks like yourself, I refuted that and pointed out that JWs do not use a punishment/reward system despite what your post said.
You then came back with some garbage about sinning, me being dumb, you being smart, and spiritual asses. Oh yeah, you called me a bitch too. That gave me a chuckle.
I then asked you to take your medication and perhaps repost something a little more coherent. So, you came back with a post trying to say that you were NOT making a distinction between mature and thinking humans and JWs (despite saying they were dumbasses in a later post,) and something about my inherent JW persecution complex (I'll have to see my shrink about that one.) Somewhere, amidst all this confusion, you "called me on it" and "proceeded to trounce my ass." However, I'm still looking for the part... -
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Shunning is the big story
by joelbear ini just read the story about the family in oregon, gone forever, because of the pressure of shunning.. in my opinion, shunning is the big story about jehovah's witnesses.
shunning and the fear of shunning is what enables the control of victims of child abuse.
shunning is what destroys families.
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Boy, are you a dumb ass. NOWHERE in any of my statements did I say or even imply that *I* don't sin because I am smart, mature, loving, blah blah blah.
And I can tell you right now, if they people you know are JWs, they are NOT smarter than me. They may SEEM to be independent thinkers, but the fact that they're still looking to a man made organization for God's approval makes them DUMBASSES.
YOU are the one who doesn't their spirtual ass from a hole in the ground.Wow...a little wound up there, aren't you LDH? Did you forget to take your Prozac?
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Shunning is the big story
by joelbear ini just read the story about the family in oregon, gone forever, because of the pressure of shunning.. in my opinion, shunning is the big story about jehovah's witnesses.
shunning and the fear of shunning is what enables the control of victims of child abuse.
shunning is what destroys families.
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amccullough
Like I said, the JW system is PERFECT for babies.
MATURE and LOVING human beings desist from 'sinning' when it causes harm to other human beings
MATURE and THINKING human beings have their actions controlled by their concern for the well-being of their fellowman, not because they're gonna get punished.
I love the superiority complex that some people have. I have no problem with different beliefs and disagreements, but I cringe everytime someone insinuates that they are flat out smarter, more mature, whatever, than witnesses. LDH, I happen to know a number of Witnesses that seem to be smarter, more mature and higher thinkers than you, if your posts are a reflection of your characteristics (they very well may not be, but the idea serves my point.)
Regarding the last post above, unless you have selective memory, you should very well know that JWs do not use DFing as a form of punishment/reward system. All of their teachings and biblical laws that they observe are backed by what they call Biblical principles or broad ideas as to why something is a law (whether they are right or wrong is beside the point of this post.) These principles are what are repeated over and over to JWs along with the desire to please God, not that if you break laws you will be DF'ed. In fact the topic of DF'ing is rarely heard from the platform. DFing is then used as a form of punishment if the laws are repeatedly broken. Or to follow your example and to break it down into a simple analogy. After you have told a child not to hit his brother because it hurts him and we do not want to hurt people, what do you do when he does not listen and continues to hit his brother? There is usually some sort of punishment, unless you are one of those neo-new age parents who has wild, rambuctious children and simply try to reason with them on everything, not giving them any consequences for their actions (short tirade at the end there.)