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Hidden Talents

by Paradise Found in

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did being a witness bring out any hidden talents in you.

Public speaking and teaching. I was always told I was a natural at both and never knew it before the troof. I am just sitting here, waiting here for uni offers to be posted to see if I got into teaching (adult education). I wonder if I never went in the troof if I would of found that out?

Sarcastically I reckon I learnt how to ignore people very fantasitcally, how to give someone the cold shoulder with conviction, how to say one thing and then do the total opposite....deliberatley. How to fudge statistics and reports without feeling guilty.

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Should I be worried.Or am I just paranoid?

by The Grudge in

well,to explain that,i haven't posted on this site in a while and obviously since this is my first post,it was a different screen name when i did.

my last post was about 6 months to a year ago.my status is, im a "fall away jw".i started having doubts about 2 years ago and they've done nothing but increase since i've been out.this isn't due to a spiritually week state of shutting "god" out of my life as a strong jw would say.instead,i've seen more shit go on in 2 years being away but still associated, then i care to list.yes,i am still associated through my wife and family,and have managed to stay at piece with everyone by keeping my mouth shut when it comes to my doubts, and now disbelief.

everyone has pretty much left me alone about not going to meetings.it wasn't that way at first, but i think they just gave up.my wife still believes its the truth but she would be considered a week jw since she doesn't go to the meetings alot.. as a 24 yr old newly married couple who just stopped going to meetings,we lost most of the "friends"we had.

Purple

So if the elders spend time and read these postings surely thats a good thing because they are exposed to the real truth and may begin to doubt their faith and stuff like that?? I wonder though if they count the time they spend purusing the boards on their monthly report???? If they do how do they justify it because it is not giving anyone a witness???? How do they also justify the thought that their God gives them the intelligence and ability for independent thought and so on and then punish a person for using that ability????? Their own hypocracy catches them at every turn!

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Have any of you experienced this ?

by codeblue in

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as a married jw, did your spouse ever cheat on you with another jw?

codeblue

Purple

Gosh the troof sure is entertaining aint it?????? You never hear of such goings on anywhere else! I love the fact that everyone knows you have the old "lets get together, hop on the backfoot and do the wild thing, wreck innocent people's lives, get disfellowshipped, get married and then come back in as repentent goodies and get back into it", clause. Everyone sniggers and knows that they will be back in once they are publicy reproved. It happens so much that it really is a sham! What used to get my goat was the poor spouse that got left behind whether they were a dub or not. No one never mentioned them or gave another thought about them, boy thats such true love aint it!

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Ticked off and lonely ( a rant)

by copsec in

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friends

ok, i am feeling sorry for myself so bear with me.

last weekend my girlfriend and i were going to finally have a "girl's night out.

" well, my husband went and invited himself along.

Purple

Ooo never heard of her. What does she suggest for the average mortal couple to do??

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My Mom verified the UN Scandal

by Nosferatu in

i went to my parents' place for supper yesterday.

as usual, i got on the subject of the society.

my mother told me that she talked to a friend of hers about the un thing, and her friend knew about it.

Purple

Thanks guys for the explanations and the link which I followed. Luckily the chinese was translated LOL!

Anyway I was in the troof during this time and never heard a word about it, but I am no longer surprised about that. Australia is treated as a colonial outpost by the Borg anyway and we were always the last to hear about things and such. Like I heard at door yesterday that the Borg had come up with this date...1914 and that in.... na only joking we arnt THAT far behind.....or are we??????????

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Do you think some sisters used the scriptures to...........................

by BLISSISIGNORANCE in

..............................................................control their husbands and force them to put up with all sorts of things?.

most of us here would agree that alot of men in the wts use and abuse the scriptures to keep women under the thumb.

we have seen time and again how some married brothers like to have the wife and daughters 6 paces behind him.

Purple

Some education needed here please.

I did not have a partner in the troof so I am not sure about the running to the elders bit and banning certain sexual acts and the other things mentioned.

On another thread didnt some sisters say that JW wives had no rights such as not being able to go to the elders and complain about anything unless the husband was there????

Sounds more like a power struggle than manipulating scriptures or a bit of both. You know to be truthful I think this issues show just how man based gods supossed word is. I mean no one but a supremem being could really fully apply and keep the impossible demands of "God's Word". We are human with desires that need to be filled and with the pressure of today's life added to the pressure of being in the troof is it no wonder that husbands and wives resort to using scriputers and teaching to hide behind or "use".

The wisest words I have ever heard are "be kind to yourself" or "Be gentle on yourself". JW's are living up to unnatural standards and trying to be who they arn't and after a while its impossible to keep the facade up 24 hours a day.

The only words of the bible that I believe in anymore are you reap what you sow. You sow lies you reap lies and so so. But like I said maybe I need some education on this matter!

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Ticked off and lonely ( a rant)

by copsec in

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friends

ok, i am feeling sorry for myself so bear with me.

last weekend my girlfriend and i were going to finally have a "girl's night out.

" well, my husband went and invited himself along.

Purple

Hey copsec

Sorry about what you are going through. Talk to him about it, find out what is really going on. My x and I stopped talking a long time before we broke up. Its not worth going down that track if you can avoid it, talk and find out the real reasons before you start speculating about affairs and such. Men loose interest in sex for so many different reasons, could be related to depression or some other medical condition, image problems and stuff. Hey I am 38 at the moment soon to be 39 (sigh) wonder if its the age of when you start looking around the world and comparing to what you have or what you should have. You know things not turning out how you thought and so on......

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I might be going back to the evil empire....

by seattleniceguy in

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friends

no, not that evil empire...god, no.. i'm referring to that large software corporation whose name rhymes with "fikrosoft.

" i got a couple emails this week asking if i was looking, and, well, i wasn't until i heard some of the details.

i just had an hour-long phone interview that went very well, and i'll be going in for an in-person interview on tuesday.

Purple

Gosg Seattleguy thats great news. Its also very flattering and a great reference to your talents and abilities. If nothing comes of it well then it wasnt meant to be. But what a great compliment for a fantasic guy! Congratulations mate!

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Out of the Loop

by Descender in

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i'm here for an attitude adjustment i guess.

i'm 28 years old and i'm out of the loop.

i was a witness up until a few years ago when my wife and i faded away.

Purple

Heheh from an "x" wives perspective who did what your wife is doing:

I could not stand being near my x before we broke up. It was due to his deteriorating mental health and not wanting to help himeself, and then the domestic violence and abuse on his part. The worse part was he thought it was acceptable and justifiable (not saying this is similar to your situation or that this is even happening in your situation).

SOmetimes when you get married it isnt what you thought it would be and you try to cut your partner out of your "real" life and yet not leave entirely but stay so everything looks right. I did that for the last 10 years of 18 years of marriage.

The truth was the less my life became about him, the more agitated and upset he became. In the end the place we shared was just somewher to come home and sleep, shower and change. It is no way to live and is not infact a life at all, for you or her. It sounds like she cant deal with your health problems.

You mentioned ADHD I think and you have gone off your tablets? Hun go back on them and try to see things clearly. It might be that you need to clear and settle your mind so you can think clearly and really look at what is happening. Dont just concentrate on what she is doing to you but look at what you as a couple are doing, what you want out of life and so on. If the relationship is not working...well it takes two to make a relationship both giving and taking, not just one giving and the other taking. Is it possible she is reacting to what is happening to you and your confusion etc?

She may love the attention that you cant give her or something, who knows? Maybe she just doenst want someone to cling to her and try to live out life through her. From what you described it sounds like that is happening. It wont work. Talk to her and try to do everything you can to sort it out before its to late. I can tell you as the one who left, it aint easy even if you are the one that walks out. Life is just so darn hard sometimes at least try to work things out before you make decscions.

Then again if you have tried and she doesnt want to, then at least you know you have done everything in your power to make the relationship work. Lets face it, a erlationship is never going to be easy or perfect and even the best ones take a lot of work. Its when we stop working to make it work that the problems really start. Talk, talk, and then talk till she listens...and listen whilst she talks, I mean really listen, dont just assume you know what she is going to say like most of us do and above all dont yell or shout but just talk!

Dont accuse, dont suspect, it could be true that she does just shrug it all off and whilst is flattered by it may be wishing she got this type of attention from you. I know thats how I was feeling when going through similar things. It was stranger before me but all I saw was my husband and fantasized it was him in my mind. I never did more than dance cause I was faithful till the end and you have no evidence to the contrary that your wife has not been faithful.. We all do lots of things to escape reality, friends and dancing could be her way of coping with a relationship that she doenst seem to be taking part in much.

Sorry I dont mean to offend or cause offense but you did ask.....

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It's probably all gonna hit the fan soon!

by onintwo in

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friends

there must be hundreds of thousands of current jw's who haven't planned for retirement.

i know that i was "in" the troof til my mid-forties and always believed what's the point?

didn't they tell us that advanced degrees were useless?

Purple

I knew a so called annointed brother who died a few years ago and I remember a the account of how he and his wife decided to get married because it would only be for a few years and the wife said she knew then where her husband would be in the new system..up in heaven watching out for her! It was an amusing story, they were both umm I forget what the next level was above regular pioneering..anyway I think they did hundreds of hours a year witnessiing and so on. They never had any children and didnt have many relatives, maybe one brother I think.

Anway he was faithful until he died and was a truely wondrful, beautiful person who always smiled and never complained about anything. I recalled this when I heard he died and wondered how he felt just before he died, I mean did he trust his long held faith fully?? Did he die confidently with the truth solid in his heart, prepared for his annoiting and stuff or did he think, sh** what if it was all a lie and stuff like that?

So anyway I like the point about the majority being without worldy goods and having to rely on the government for an income now. Its an interesting point. Most dunbs here live in government housing on government pensions awaiting the day when all that is behind them. Well the truth is if they went out and got full time jobs or lots of part time jobs they could get out of government housing and pensions. Many related that they thought they were beating the government at their own game, getting the government to support the great witnessing work world wide. When you think about it, its not such a joke, they are!

As to what will happoen in the future to them, most will end up deluded and disappointed but still stay in the troof because its habit and its their life. I wonder if they ever did a survey and asked how many were deluded and disappointed and were afraid to leave the troof what the statistics would reveal and we might see many really leaving. After all dont they count inactive ones still amongst their numbers???

Interesting thread indeed!