look at what i found............ i would have never imagined that i would find a link to the original bible students associated with the wts,.
here is the link to proof about the 587 b.c.e.
as being the correct year for the destruction of the temple.
Look at what I found...........
I would have never imagined that I would find a link to the original Bible Students associated with the WTS,
Here is the link to proof about the 587 B.C.E. as being the correct year for the destruction of the Temple. http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/doctrine/time.pdf
The original site is www.heraldmag.org
i have been having problems posting for the last couple of weeks.
i've been watching for someone to post on this article.
i saw no reference at all to the united nations--only vaguely to the political powers.
Mark of the Beast,
In response to the United Nations as the beast. The wild beast makes an attack on the holy ones during the time of the end. The United States along with Britain have been the sole world power, and it is evident. The United Nations did not have any power over the actions by the United States. The United Nation has as much power as the countries that support it. The United States and Britain flexed their muscle against the United Nations and won. If you look at the beasts in past history such as Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia.......etc. you will notice that they were the ones that effected God's people. There have been many strong nations throughout history, but the only significant ones are the ones that effect the region, and God' people.
I have wondered about the possibilty of the people in the Middle East being Jehovah's people. If you read the book of Jeremiah, you will see that He still has his heart on the Nations of Israel, and Judah. It was prophecied that they would be trampled upon by the nations until the time of the end. But Jehovah will restore them as He promised. We have to wait and see who prevails, and find out who the chosen ones are. I believe they are in fact the Two Witnesses in Revelations 11, and I believe these to be the nations of Israel, and Judah, keeping in mind of course that these would be the ones that have proven their loyalty to Jehovah.
As far as the wild beast is concerned, read Revelations closely, and relate the events from the 911 attacks, to see if they fulfill prophecy. Keep the Middle East in mind when you read these, and you will have a better understanding of the prophecy. The wild beast recieved a death stroke and revived. ( 911 attack on United States was the death stroke). The wild beast was given authority over every tribe, people, tongue, and nation. (This power was given to the United States under the Patriot Act in order to defend against terrorism). No one might be able to buy or sell without the mark of the wild beast. ( This power is given under the sanctions imposed by the United States against any country that goes against their policy). The beast that was, but is not, and yet will be present. (George Bush Senior was president, was not when Clinton was, and George Bush Junior is currently the President) George Bush Junior initiated war against Iraq under the same resolutions that his father commenced. United Nations resolution 666, is one of these resolutions.
Look at all of these facts which relate to the United States. The flags of the United States, and Great Britain are peculiar. There were seven stars for the United States, and the letter X (roman numeral 10) for Great Britain. The United States constitution has Seven Articles, Ten Bill of Rights, and 27 Amendments. George Bush Junior celebrated the 216th anniversary of the Constitution (6x6x6=216) Senate Resolution 666 commenced the 107th Congress (10, 7) ......................these are just a few things you can relate if you look closely.
I for one believe that a major event will take place in the year 2005. 42 months from the 911 attacks. I think perhaps that Christ will begin his Reign and begin to judge the nations. Then Jehovah will deliver His people from the one that is stronger then them......................open your eyes !!!!
numbering of the presidents.
you may have noticed that the numbering of the presidents on this site differs slightly from other sources.
the reason is because of the two non-consecutive terms that grover cleveland served in the late 19th century.
Numbering of the Presidents
You may have noticed that the numbering of the Presidents on this site differs slightly from other sources. The reason is because of the two non-consecutive terms that Grover Cleveland served in the late 19th century. When Cleveland began his first term in office he was the 22nd person to hold the office. When Cleveland was defeated by Benjamin Harrison in the next election, Harrison became the 23rd President.
When Cleveland defeated Harrison in the next election and took office for his second term, there still had only been 23 individuals since George Washington to hold the office of President, Cleveland being the 22nd. However, because of Cleveland's non-consecutive terms some sources call him the 22nd and 24th President. This causes the numbering on Presidentsusa.net to differ by one for every President after Cleveland. However, even though George Washington served two terms no one calls him the 1st and 2nd President. The fact that Cleveland's terms were not consecutive is irrelevant.
Because of these facts, Presidentsusa.net describes the current President George W. Bush as the 42nd President of the United States. Many sources refer to him as the 43rd President, even though there have only been 42 individuals that have served as President.
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what do you think??
more info to follow..............
Here is the explanation:
You may have noticed that the numbering of the Presidents on this site differs slightly from other sources. The reason is because of the two non-consecutive terms that Grover Cleveland served in the late 19th century. When Cleveland began his first term in office he was the 22nd person to hold the office. When Cleveland was defeated by Benjamin Harrison in the next election, Harrison became the 23rd President.
When Cleveland defeated Harrison in the next election and took office for his second term, there still had only been 23 individuals since George Washington to hold the office of President, Cleveland being the 22nd. However, because of Cleveland's non-consecutive terms some sources call him the 22nd and 24th President. This causes the numbering on Presidentsusa.net to differ by one for every President after Cleveland. However, even though George Washington served two terms no one calls him the 1st and 2nd President. The fact that Cleveland's terms were not consecutive is irrelevant.
Because of these facts, Presidentsusa.net describes the current President George W. Bush as the 42nd President of the United States. Many sources refer to him as the 43rd President, even though there have only been 42 individuals that have served as President.
http://www.presidentsusa.net/numbering.html
http://thelastgeneration.org/ This site is in it's beginning stages
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what do you think??
more info to follow..............
What do you think?? More info to follow..............
september 11th, 2001
the kingdom of god was born
time of the gentiles ended
Hi,
Check out Matthew 1:17. It tells about the generations from Abraham, all the way down. In order to find the years in a generation, calculate 14x3, as the clue in the scripture suggests. You get 42 years per generation. This will take you 588 years to the deportation of Zedekiah, which is around 587-586 B.C.E. which coincides with history. Than continue the calculations and you come up with 1176 years to David, and 1764 years to Abraham. Do some research on the internet and you will soon find that these dates can be accurate. Now there are 90 generations until 2016 C.E. From Abraham. Again we will calculate using the number 14, 90 x 14, and we get 1260, the number of days the two witnesses prophecy in Revelations chapter 11. How coincidental is that? By the way the second temple was destroyed in 70 C.E. If there are 42 years in a generation, then the temple would have been destroyed in the second generation less 14 years. 42x2=84 years, minus 14 years. 2016 minus 14 years is the year 2002. Open you eyes...........
Stevie
september 11th, 2001
the kingdom of god was born
time of the gentiles ended
Hello all,
I agree that the WTS has incorrectly interpreted prophecy, and I don't care to do the same. However, there is a need to look further into the aspect of the wild beast. I have some questions for those who responded. Who are the holy ones that are conquered for forty two months? What group of people is hated by all the nations? What group of people has betrayed one another, and turned against each other, if not the people of the Middle East. The United States is the sole world power currently ruling, and are the seventh power to have an effect on the people in the holy land. The 911 attack was a death stroke to this nation, or to the wild beast. It is very peculiar to know that Resolution 666 commenced the 107th congress. That United Nations Resolution 666 was part of the resolutions to authorize war. President Bush Senior started the Iraq war in 1991, walked away from it, and his son is finishing it, which is very similar to the way the Romans attacked Jerusalem. Does this fit? (the one who is, but is not, and will yet be present). President Bush celebrated the 216 anniversay of the U.S. Constitution (6x6x6=216) The United States finally went to war under resolution 1441. Also, they started off with a flag of seven stars, and the british started with the letter X, or roman numeral 10. The U.S. constitution has seven articles, ten bill of rights, and 27 amendments. I am not a numerologist and don't subscribe to it, but these are all numbers depicting the wild beast.
586 B.C.E. is agreed upon for the invasion of Jerusalem, however the Temple might have been destroyed in 585 B.C.E. because Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the Temple later. There was an eclipse predicted by Thales in 585 B.C.E. and I am trying to find a corresponding time to fit with 586-585 B.C.E. to verify. There was another solar eclipse in 1999 and also the alignment of the planets occured. Thereafter earthquakes have been reported beginning with the one in Turkey, and many repeated in one place after another. Take time to study your bible and equate it with historic facts. I for one will follow Jehovah even after leaving an organization, after all we have to put trust in God and not in man...........Have a nice Day
Stevie
a number of posts by recent and old members of jwd (i won't mention names) struck me as being only variants of the typical wt-stuff involving prophecies or chronology, based on mystical revelation and/or intensive personal study of the bible.
generally those posters did not adhere to any other church, nor went through the academic cursus of theological and biblical studies.
they seem to be quite lonely with their "truth", still persevere in it with remarkable consistency.
Hello all,
I agree that the WTS has incorrectly interpreted prophecy, and I don't care to do the same. However, there is a need to look further into the aspect of the wild beast. I have some questions for those who responded. Who are the holy ones that are conquered for forty two months? What group of people is hated by all the nations? What group of people has betrayed one another, and turned against each other, if not the people of the Middle East. The United States is the sole world power currently ruling, and are the seventh power to have an effect on the people in the holy land. The 911 attack was a death stroke to this nation, or to the wild beast. It is very peculiar to know that Resolution 666 commenced the 107th congress. That United Nations Resolution 666 was part of the resolutions to authorize war. President Bush Senior started the Iraq war in 1991, walked away from it, and his son is finishing it, which is very similar to the way the Romans attacked Jerusalem. Does this fit? (the one who is, but is not, and will yet be present). President Bush celebrated the 216 anniversay of the U.S. Constitution (6x6x6=216) The United States finally went to war under resolution 1441. Also, they started off with a flag of seven stars, and the british started with the letter X, or roman numeral 10. The U.S. constitution has seven articles, ten bill of rights, and 27 amendments. I am not a numerologist and don't subscribe to it, but these are all numbers depicting the wild beast.
586 B.C.E. is agreed upon for the invasion of Jerusalem, however the Temple might have been destroyed in 585 B.C.E. because Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the Temple later. There was an eclipse predicted by Thales in 585 B.C.E. and I am trying to find a corresponding time to fit with 586-585 B.C.E. to verify. There was another solar eclipse in 1999 and also the alignment of the plants occured. Thereafter earthquakes have been reported beginning with the one in Turkey, and many repeated in one place after another. Take time to study your bible and equate it with historic facts. I for one will follow Jehovah even after leaving an organization, after all we have to put trust in God and not in man...........Have a nice Day
Stevie
september 11th, 2001
the kingdom of god was born
time of the gentiles ended
September 11 th , 2001
Critical Years:
(( Zero-Year Formula: Subtract one year for calculations from C.E. to B.C.E. ))
The correct calculations for the first appearance of Christ on earth: (seventy weeks, seven weeks, sixty-two weeks, one week) Daniel 9:24,27 (70x7 + 62x1) (490+62=552) [552 YEARS]
The correct calculation for the Times of the Gentiles: (seventy weeks, seven weeks, sixty-two weeks, one week) Daniel 9:24,27 (70+7+62+1=140) (Mark of the Wild Beast, 666) Revelations 13:18 (6+6+6=18) (140x18=2520) [2520 YEARS] Compare (1260x2=2520) Revelations 11:3, 12:6
Word goes forth to restore (September 11, 518 B.C.E.)
Calculation to the Kingdom of God being born (2520-1=2519)(2519-518=2001) 9/11/2001
Numbers to consider:
the kingdom of god was born
time of the gentiles ended
the wild beast begins reign of 42 months
September 11 th , 2001
Critical Years:
(( Zero-Year Formula: Subtract one year for calculations from C.E. to B.C.E. ))
The correct calculations for the first appearance of Christ on earth: (seventy weeks, seven weeks, sixty-two weeks, one week) Daniel 9:24,27 (70x7 + 62x1) (490+62=552) [552 YEARS]
The correct calculation for the Times of the Gentiles: (seventy weeks, seven weeks, sixty-two weeks, one week) Daniel 9:24,27 (70+7+62+1=140) (Mark of the Wild Beast, 666) Revelations 13:18 (6+6+6=18) (140x18=2520) [2520 YEARS] Compare (1260x2=2520) Revelations 11:3, 12:6
Word goes forth to restore (September 11, 518 B.C.E.)
Calculation to the Kingdom of God being born (2520-1=2519)(2519-518=2001) 9/11/2001
Numbers to consider:
