Posts by Morgan

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Could This Be the Most Repellent Watchtower ....Ever?

by metatron in

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you'll be getting the aug. 1 watchtower soon.

on it's rear cover, it has the following article:.

"the branch office of jehovah's witnesses in nigeria recently received a letter that, in part.

Morgan

Hi Sunspot,

The Org is NOT God---and God is not "represented" by the Org. Grow up! The WTS has fed this line to people for far too long. The WTS is being exposed as we speak! The 'net is showing untolled folks about what it is really all about. This international information highway at our fingertips. Long live the 'net!!!!
You want to talk about "real" Christianity-----so be it. Jesus is not just a puppet leading you to the Org for salvation. Jesus IS salvation. The WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE---and NO ONE will come to his Father---except through HIM----NOT a LYING organization of MEN "pretending" to BE him

I agree. Makes me think of the scripture...Matt. 24:4,5.

Morgan

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Could This Be the Most Repellent Watchtower ....Ever?

by metatron in

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friends

you'll be getting the aug. 1 watchtower soon.

on it's rear cover, it has the following article:.

"the branch office of jehovah's witnesses in nigeria recently received a letter that, in part.

Morgan

Hi Proplog,

The accusation that JW's are a money hungry organization doesn't harmonize with what they actually do. If they were primarily interested in money they would encourage American members to forget about their unproductive service (milliions of hours spent producing a 1/2 percent increase) and instead work overtime and contribute to the worldwide work where there is a significant increase.
They discourage their members from being successful in this world. If their members went to college and contributed to the organization they would have a lot more money. Their behavior indicates that money is not their primary purpose

Could it be that if Jw's actually had a good education, and were successful, the WTS would loose people by the masses? Knowledge is thier enemy.

C'mon they discourage higher education. It's not because of money.....it's because they would have few followers to contribute. Keep them barefoot and pregnant. Keep them dependent. IMPO.

6,000,000 Jw's. $1.00 a week from each is.......I'll let you do the math. (I'm just guessing at an average. I have no idea what they gross a week.)

Morgan

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The WT and Freedom to choose Evil

by jst2laws in

the wt and freedom to choose evil

augustine taught that evil did not really exits, only love, and that evil is the lack of love.

but the wt society does not agree.

Morgan

When I read this thread, what came to my mind was...Proverbs chapter 8. Yeah, the whole chapter.

Are these scriptures talking about God or Jesus? When I read it, I think it is talking about wisdom. How God had to learn wisdom.

I guess my thought is.....If God had to learn wisdom where does evil come into play? Job 28:28....To depart from evil is understanding. Soooo, (and this is just a thought), yes God was (is) capable of evil. He had evil tendencies from the begining.Because, he also has the same free will. But, he learned through wisdom to control it. To master it. Does this make any sense? Am I waaayyyy out in left field here?

Morgan

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Bethel tours.$$$$!!!

by confedd in

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if anyone hear gets a chance ,check out the $$$ it costs to do the bethel bull tour!.

just type bethel tours and get the jolt!talk about being taken ,not even free meals(just personal advice on low cost diners etc, nearby!]..

it's sad there a still suckers that buy[$$} the bethel bull emotionally,spititually and financially!

Morgan

Why do they advertise on the internet? I thought the internet was bad..bad...bad....

LOL....You can plan a trip for a tour on the internet, but don't look up any other info, that might ruin their reputation. Rrrrrrright. (I feel a little like Dr. Evil at the moment).

Morgan

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was I stupid or what?

by Ciara in

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you know, something dawned on me a while back and as i'm reading all the posts tonight, i can't stop thinking about this.. all of you guys seem like you knew for quite a while before you left that the jw's were full of crap.

i had doubts and questions, but the reason that i left was that i just gave up.

i knew that i was never going to be able to live up to their expectations and i just got so depressed that i quit.

Morgan

Hi Ciara,

I can certainly relate to your feelings. How bout this....I was never baptised a JW. Nope, I just took to heart that they had the truth and I was not worthy of God's approval. Over 20 years I beat myself up mentally because I couldn't adjust my life to the Orgs rules and regulations. How messed up is that?

I plain and simply felt the JWs were God's people. And, I was destined to die at Armageddon because I was dirt. I didn't even care, as long as God cleared his name. Instead of fighting to find the truth about the 'truth', I sucummed to their theologies. And, as a result, I lived in depression for many years. I started to come out of this way of thinking about a year ago. All I can say is when it happened it was like a flood of understanding. I don't read their literature anymore, or care about anything they have to say. (I'm talking about the society, not the individuals).

Anyway, I also felt like a fool. A bafoon for not taking my own interest in the Bible and, making my personal relationship with God just that. Personal. I feel like I'm actually getting my life back now. That I am allowed to control myself, trust in my own reading and understanding of the Bible, and God dosen't hate, or disaprove of me for doing so.

Duped. Violated. Mislead. Anger. Bitterness. Hopelessness. There are alot of feelings we each go through on the road to recovery. Hang in there. Time can heal alot of wounds. And, remember....You are not alone in your feelings. The WTS has the problems. Not you.

Morgan

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What's up with JWs only loving each other?

by new light in

how can it be called love when it is contingent on religious fervor?

i saw first hand today how some dubs only respect those of the faith, while dismissing others as scum.

their ridiculous, unnecessary preaching work is their only claim to being christ's followers.

Morgan

IMPO the WTS cannot control JWs unless they isolate them. Hense, we are considered dogs...on the outside.

There is not any scripture to back up thier actions. We are to love our neighbor. Who is our neighbor? The whole world. How do the JWs explain they show the world love? By going door to door. Consider yourselves loved! LOL

Morgan

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Were the pre-flood people that wicked?

by indoubt in

i have to say upfront that i am not sure about anything at this point of my life (i.e.

but i am trying to believe that there is a god, and that he is loving and cares about us...

i saw horrific pictures the other day about the floods that just occurred in dominican republic.

Morgan

Finally, the Yahweh of Genesis needed a lot of convincing to not unleash destruction. Look at how Abraham had to intercede with Yahweh regarding the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, pleading with him to not destroy the city if ten righteous people lived there. And yet Yahweh went ahead with the destruction, and even Lot and his family (who were later saved) were destined for destruction. That's right, even Lot was going to be destroyed. The angels didn't come to save him, but to destroy to city (Genesis 19:13). Rather Lot SAVED HIMSELF by showing them his hospitality (Genesis 19:12, 19). And because of his one life, God actually spared a whole city (Genesis 19:21). Despite the attempt by Hebrews and 1 Peter making Lot a "righteous" person after the fact, there is not a word about him being righteous at all up until his actions in ch. 19 and Jewish tradition similarly concluded that he had been wicked.

I agree with this, Leolaia. Good point, and good reasoning.

Morgan

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INFP - Whats your Type?

by Gretchen956 in

has anyone taken the myers briggs personality type test?

i am an infp (theres no big surprise there, hey??

)the idealist.

Morgan

I am INFJ. They say only 1% are this type. That explains alot. Always felt like I was the oddball!

Morgan

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Six Flags shouldn't have let morbidly obese man on roller coaster

by ThiChi in

i'm sorry, but i can't get this picture out of my mind, a 365 pound man flying through the air....

six flags shouldn't have let morbidly obese man on roller coaster.

six flags darien lake, n.y., amusement park in will pay $3.95 million to a man who sustained a large abdominal hernia after being ejected from the park's superman--ride of steel roller coaster.

Morgan

Wow! This thread hits close to home for me.

I live in the same city as this man. No, he is not tall. Average height, but he is a big guy. I don't know him personally, but see him out once in a while.... (Just saw him yesterday at the store.)

Six Flags should of banned him from riding the coaster. If they had, he wouldn't of been injured. Too bad he wanted to ride, he wouldn't have a case, they have the right to refuse. I don't know if he could sue for discrimination.( If they have the right to refuse, how could he sue?) Even if he could, I would think the payout would be alot less. No medical expenses. Just emotional suffering. Seeing that they didn't use thier right to do this, who does the liability fall on? I agree some people today do not take responsibility for thier actions. But, he was injured, and the laws in the USA allow him to sue for these reasons. Right or wrong, it's his right to sue. Do I agree? Doesn't matter. That's the law. And, there are people that will take advantage of it. Quirky laws we have, aren't they? Just my personal opinion....

Morgan

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Info: IP address

by Morgan in

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is anyone here familiar with ip addresses?

i visit a couple different sites.

in my firewall log, i get the same ip address for these sites.. after i clear all entries in the log, i will visit one site, and the name comes up for the other, with the same ip.

Morgan

Thanks Simon,

Soooo, more than 1 computer can have the same IP? Fair enough! I did not know this.Thanks again!

Morgan