some of these things make me want to throw up. I only wish they would put some of these things in print more often. they use the platform for abusive words they would never dare put in writing. they explain it away as "one elder's opinion" or "imperfect men". blah blah blah. but everyone knows these attitudes are encouraged. they are just trying to make everyone mean.
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What is the most objectionable thing you have heard off the platform?
by restrangled ini know many have quoted ridiculous statements from the assemblies etc., i just wonder what irked you most off of the platform in your own kh.. the one that sticks out in my mind was when we had a guest speaker on a sunday for the public talk.
i don't remember the theme but his main point was the starving people in africa did not need food.
he stated they needed spiritual food and would opt for that over a meal because they realize they could eat in the new order and there was no need to send any donations directly.
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What is the most objectionable thing you have heard off the platform?
by restrangled ini know many have quoted ridiculous statements from the assemblies etc., i just wonder what irked you most off of the platform in your own kh.. the one that sticks out in my mind was when we had a guest speaker on a sunday for the public talk.
i don't remember the theme but his main point was the starving people in africa did not need food.
he stated they needed spiritual food and would opt for that over a meal because they realize they could eat in the new order and there was no need to send any donations directly.
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not the platform, just bookstudy, but something close to balsam's experience, the conductor said there are times when he must beat his wife and child, like it was a normal acceptable thing. I think my reaction said a lot, though I never spoke up. I feel like shit for that. But nobody else even batted an eye. At least I complained about it to others.
And his poor wife and daughter were sitting right there. I'm sure she was embarrassed to be represented as no better than an out of control child who needs a good beating from time to time.
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Never trust brothers you don't know!
by 5thGeneration inwell, i broke it to my super devout parents that after this i don't believe there is any reason why i should trust any 'brother' i don't know around my kids.. no way, no how!.
they had to admit this was pretty shocking and enlightening but they still ended up making excuses.
the society will soon have to drop the 'we are better than everyone else' argument for sure.
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they damn sure better not have had a previous incident swept under the rug. that's all I can say.
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Did I miss something? Is this the new resolution at the D.Convention?
by Star Moore in1. we are determined to intensify our preaching activity.
2. to live up to our dedication to jehovah and give him exclusive devotion.
3. to follow jesus' example closely and be no part of the world.
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Yeah, no entertainment? I think they snuck that one in... people's heads are spinning from everything else, so they won't notice it. It's all crap. I mean, resolution smesolution. How many times did they promise something that went unfulfilled. Best of intentions and everything else, people will just go ahead and do whatever they do and nothing will change. They are just being taught to harden their consciences by stating they won't do something they know they damn sure will. And it's just drawing deeper lines between "stronger" and "weaker" JWs, making the smallest things interable in the eyes of the self-righteous.
This sort of thing doesn't make me angry. It just shows what a weak position they are coming from. Apparently no JW does anything without being threatened to do so first.
I just wish everyone wouldn't stay so silent about all of this. They just nod their heads, say "aye" and nobody says a word about big brother, but they all see it.
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Have you installed your WT "Keeping Spiritually Clean" software?
by LovesDubs ini believe its coming.
big brother wt cant control the internet, they tried to shut down all anti jw sites, they threatened those who went to any sites that mentioned jw beliefs even if it was pro-jw....they dfd jws who published books or had sites about the organization even if they were pro-jw....they developed their own web sites to counter the flow...then came the jw dating sites, the jw chat rooms,...they cannot stem the flow!
so... they will develop software (spyware) that all "loyal" jws will have to have on their computers that will prevent them from going to any non-approved web sites containing any anti-jw information.
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isn't that somehow violating freedom of _________ something or other. Wouldn't they have to make it known they are doing that?
I can't see the US government stepping in to overturn anything the Watchtower wants to do.
I wouldn't entirely put it past them, but if they did this, it wouldn't stop people from using their computers at work, school or public libraries, so it really wouldn't work. Besides, some computer savvy people could find a way around it. And how many of us don't have more than one computer? If I was stuck with that sort of rule, the software, if it must, would go on the one I rarely use. There's no way anything like that would work.
My guess is having or using a home computer will become what having a television used to be ... self righteous people will claim to have gotten rid of their TV or "put it up" as they said in my area. I always said they "put it up" higher so they could see it easier. LOL.
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"Smacking Yourself on the Forehead."
by scout575 in"as to your christian family + friends, you will realize that, if and / or when you tell them of your unbelief, you will find that these so called christians will leave you cold!!!
so much for christian love.".
"i agree with trashy... expect lots of time spent smacking yourself on the forehead, wondering how in the world you could have believed it for so long.
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itsallgoodnow
a very interesting discussion board. I didn't get very involved there, told my story, but I was really shocked to find how many people had similar experiences with their "mainstream" christian religions. It really makes me skeptical when people tell me their religion is very different from Jehovah's Witnesses. I figure many many religions are exactly the same. It doesn't seem so from the outside, when you see people doing all sorts of "sinful" things and seeming to get away with it in their Churches, but you've got to ask yourself, are these people getting away with it because they are more popular, have money or are related to someone important, ie the same reasons some JWs get away with things?
Makes you wonder what's going on out there, that's for sure.
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We've been given our orders!
by Cabin in the woods inah the joys of having a hubby that is in complete subjection to his witness sister!!!!.
i love living my life according to the book of lori!
she and frank are supposed to find a new care home for their father so today they made arrangements to go together and look for one.
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... this is contentious because she knows that Frank stated clearly when we first got married that I was not going to be taken on any vacation...period...ever. I wasn't as pretty as his other girfriends and not as slender and he did not think that I was worthy of being taken away from home for a few days. This has been an ongoing hurt for the full time of our marriage.
This is disturbing. It really did a number on your self esteem, as you seem to think his attitude is valid now. I can only say that's a really weak reason for him to not want to take you on trips. Does he travel by himself, or does he really not like to travel, but found a way to hold you accountable for the reason you do not travel together? I'm sorry you are having to deal with that sort of thing. I think there are steps you can take to build up your own self esteem and deal with this sort of treatment.
From what you say about the controlling people in his family, it's possible he acts this way because that is all he has ever known, and he has never seen the need to change that part of his behavior. I think it's harder for males that grow up in this environment to change. They usually didn't bear the brunt of the controlling behavior, they just watched what their fathers did and figured because they had a penis they could bully others, too. They were probably socialized to do this, and never realized how off-putting it is and how all of their relationships are strained as a result of it.
Girls, on the other hand, can go either way. In my family, the girls range from completely controlling to so passive they always get walked all over. If they manage to break out of that mold and find a way to deal with controlling people without being controlling themselves, they find themselves to be hated bitterly by all. From what I can tell about the sister, she may be controlling, but it seems like it's coming from a very weak position. Sneaky, petty little things like withholding and controlling information and talking about subject she knows will upset you, rubbing your face in things. My advice is to find a way to change the way you respond to these people. Odds are you are an open book and they get a little thrill every time they upset you.
If something like what the sister did upsets you this much, either you are getting upset too easily, or you are just so stressed out about everything overall that you really need to find a way to deal with these situations and de-stress. You will be happier, calmer and enjoy your life. Sometimes we can't change our problems, but we can change the way they affect us.
Good luck to you!
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My personal experiences. How long can I keep up this facade?
by alienagent ini am a 34 your old man who has been raised a jw.
i am baptised and have been inactive for some time now.
i live with my mother (a devout jw) and my youngest sister who is df'd.
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I knew a witness with similar situation with disfellowshipped siblings, the pressure is more intense upon the one not yet disfellowshipped, because the parent lets on they couldn't bear to have all of the kids leave, so the pressure is on the one still in. It is a double standard, but they will be more pissed at the last one who leaves than they were the others. It makes them feel like a complete failure as a parent.
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UK Big Brother series housemate a JW?
by Sirona indid anyone see tonights big brother?
ashlene said some stuff about the bible which was distinctly jw..... she said.... "don't you think that the stuff the bible predicted is happening in our day?
" then she said "the bible condemns many things, like sex before marriage, smoking and other stuff".
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I would put money on her being topless in a hot-tub with one of the other housemates later on if she doesn't get booted first.
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Vegetarianism
by rezamichael inwhy aren't witnesses vegetarians?
it's well known that adam and eve were vegetarian.
there was only ever a concession given by god to allow meat eating after the flood as there was no vegetation so it was forced and rather a temporary fix up rather than a new permanent diet.
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Your approach to vegetarianism is no different than many of this world's more intolerant religions. Judgemental. Remember, you catch more flies with honey! Honey is alright, right? although you can't eat the flies, that would be murder and you would deserve to go to hell for it.