Posts by cyber-sista

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What I remember from 1975

by Big Dog in

since i am sort of late to the party this has probably been beaten to death and if it has just kick this thread to the curb.

i was 11 years old in 1975 and i remember being scared silly the whole year.

i mean there was so much hype about it and the tension in the air was so thick it was unreal.

In 1975 I was not a witness, but my husband's cousin was. I never met this cousin, but the family had s bizarre stories about the cousin and her family living up in the woods and living off of acorns and preparing for the end of the world. I remember the cousin's brother speaking of a visit to his JW sister's house. I guess these JWs had also parted from most of their worldly possesions and the brother spent one darned uncomfortable night sleeping on an old broken down sofa after eating a meal of acorns. Guess that should have clued me into life as a JW, but it didn't and about 7 years later I became a JW in the midst of a bad bought of post partum depression. The whole JW doomsday doctrine fed on my paranoia and anxiety at the time. I think they catch a lot of people this way.

cybs

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A possible way to get JWs info w/out incriminating oneself?

by ithinkisee in

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i have an idea on how to get information in a way that won't get you identified ... i wanted to put it to this forum for scrutiny before i actually put it into practice.

i am on several people's jw spam list.

.meaning they constantly send me the same things that go around in other circles, like the "send this to five friends" or they send the scriptures for the week's book study, or they send a "jws in the news" article or something like that.

cyber-sista

I think you could bring up the Catholic church and its sex scandals (a sure fire attention catcher) and then weave into the paragraph something like: sadly brothers some of this same type of behaviour has infiltrated our own beloved WT organization, but fortunately some who really care about setting things right are working dilengently on thus issue are now at work to get this matter right--and then send them to the silentlambs website...this was a big eye opener for me, but then I knew of a few situations in the congo over the years that were covered over, but I think many others probably do too.

That's my 2 cents,

cybs

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Who Do You Think Really Knows That The Organization Is BullCrap???

by minimus in

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friends

do you think the governing body really knows it??

the lawyers??

the average elder or ministerial servant?

cyber-sista

Welcome hopelesslystained. Please write on. Don't know your story, but I was really paranoid about revealing anything about myself when I first got here, kind of like I was hiding out from the mob or something. I feel a bit less paranoid now, but since I have already lost all my JW friends and family in my fading away, I really have nothing else to lose, as I have to honestly tell them all I am never ever ever going back to the organization for any reason and that is pretty much the end of the subject for all but one lone friend who is a fringe JW I would say.

On the subject of Ted I believe I saw just about all the GB at a few major assemblies over the years--they all struck me as arrogant and my gut told me they were, but my brainwashed JW mind told me that these were men of authority and they were acting in an authoritive godly manner. Actually they all reminded me of used car salemen.

cybs

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I NEED YOUR HELP!!!!!

by chuckyy in

my wifes father has just died.

he wasn't a jw but his wife is.my wife and i are recently disassociated.. the thing is, the reason my wife and i disassociated is because of cruel comments made by certain sisters toward my disabled daughter.

now my wife has to see these 2 particular people everyday at school (their 2 kids are in class with ours) now usually, they stand away from my wife waiting for their kids and walk out after us.

cyber-sista

I have been rather down this week because of some family shunning. Finally my hubby (non-JW) sat me down and gave me a talking to. He said you have to realize what you are dealing with. The JWs world is very fragile and most of those who live in it are very frightened and feel they have to defend it because they are very fragile too.

In otherwords, you aren't dealing with normal people here. They aren't strong enough to live in the real world so they live in JW land and many of them don't know where else to go... Anyway, I know that having pity for them doesn't always help...I do though hate the organization that controls these people and perpetuates and exaggerates their mental illness, but this is what religion is about and it has been doing this since the beginning of time.

cybs

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I NEED YOUR HELP!!!!!

by chuckyy in

my wifes father has just died.

he wasn't a jw but his wife is.my wife and i are recently disassociated.. the thing is, the reason my wife and i disassociated is because of cruel comments made by certain sisters toward my disabled daughter.

now my wife has to see these 2 particular people everyday at school (their 2 kids are in class with ours) now usually, they stand away from my wife waiting for their kids and walk out after us.

cyber-sista

Glad you're here, chuckyy. Among this group, you're welcomed, honored, and appreciated. Screw them.
Dave

Repeating Dave's words here as they are well said.

I have come to the conclusion that people like this are very sick and they are using their religion as some kind of a power trip that they can use on other people to elevate themselves. I think that most of the JWs have very low self esteem and people like this generally resort to these sort of power trip antics to elevate their broken egos (the organization in its very teaching promotes this lowly mindset) Remember how we were told that we were good for nothing slaves?

I think that writing a letter to the editor about this situation is a good idea--or contacting a local paper with your story. In order to establish some respect in the public eye though you have to go into it with a cool head (though you can still have some energy around it for sure). Yes, it is painful and it is unfair, but remember you are dealing with a very mentally disturbed group of people here. I am sure there are many people in your town who will offer you their sincere heartfelt sympathies and condolences, as I do now. As far as those who are still trapped in the Org they will reap what they sow and they will have their torture of sitting there at the tediously boring meetings and assemblies for the next several years and associating within their group of backstabbing comrades--that's enough punishment for anyone. Just be glad your out.

Take some deep breaths and a walk in the woods to clear your head,

I wish you and your family well,

cybs

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The offer that the WTS has made to you

by Bluegrass Tom in

here is something to consider in wts speak:

it takes about five minutes of time, a page from an encyclopedia and some electrical impulses passing between the ears to recognize that jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 b.c.e.

with a little more thought (and some arithmetic), it can be realized that this means that the 70 years of desolation never happened.

cyber-sista

Thank you for this information. The year 1914 is so pivotal to the WT teachings that most of the religious doctrine hangs upon this point. this one point nullifies the whole WT religion, but try and get a faithful JW to consider that anything their almightly org says is wrong is near impossible. I guess that most of us here understand the mindset to one degree or another, as many like myself spent some years in the Organization in a surreal sense of denial.

cybs

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Comments You Will Not Hear At The 2-27-05 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the february 27, 2005 wt study (january 15, 2005 issue)

end in 1925. christ completes his conquest.

are jws the only ones who think we are living in the time of the end?.

cyber-sista

Par 3 " As early as the 1870's, before the last days commenced, Jehovah God began to shed more light on the sacred secrets of the kingom of the heavens. At that time a group of bible students discerned - contrary to public opinion - that Christs return was to be invisible"
Excuse me, that is so misleading as to be an outright fib! As I recall, and Blondie pointed out, in the 1870's they taught that the last days had begun. . Only much later did they teach that the return and last days commenced in 1914.

At the same time was god also shedding the light on subjects such as vaccinations being from the devil? The measuring of the great pyramids? AND all the other whacko teachings that Russell and his cohorts came up with at that period of time and the time to follow. How can they claim to be god's channel of truth and preach that god cannot lie? Oh yeh, the light gets brighter...

cybs

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Comments You Will Not Hear At The 2-27-05 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the february 27, 2005 wt study (january 15, 2005 issue)

end in 1925. christ completes his conquest.

are jws the only ones who think we are living in the time of the end?.

cyber-sista

Great reveiw. All I can say is I feel really sorry for those who have to spend their Sundays sitting in KH listening to this drivel. I remember all too well the torturous boredom of it all.

Jesus foretold that apostates, like weeds sown among the wheat, would infiltrate the Christian congregation and lead many astray. (Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43; Acts 20-29-31; Jude 4)

Seems like almost every week now they have apostate warnings in the articles. The real truth about the WT is becoming harder and harder to cover up. The only way to keep anyone in the organization is to totally close up their minds by creating this paranoia against anyone who says anything that puts the WT in a negative light.

cybs

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Bethel wants lawyers!

by zack in

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friends

at this week's service meeting it a letter was read to all congregations in usa:

bethel wants lawyers, lawyers specializing in tax law, and cpa's.

if you are in any of these professions you were supposed to talk to the po that evening.

cyber-sista

I think they will be hard pressed to find any JW lawyers--otherwise they wouldn't be reading this notice to the general JW populas. The nerve of these people! It takes several years of college to earn a law degree--and college is something the WT has most definitely been against--I can personally attest to that. Many of the JWs counceled me on this including elders when my non-baptized daughter was attending a JC while still living at home. Quoting from the magazine we were given the warnings were of worldly association and materialistic thinking. "How much better it was to be serving Jehovah's organization instead of seeking a career in this dying world"...blah, blah, blah.

Lawyers are trained in critical and analitical thinking abilities and I doubt if many of them join up with the JWs in their adult lives. JW youth still have a social stigma upon them about what to study if they do go to college. Most of the young JW women I know attending college have gone into careers such as nursing (this seems to be JW approved). I have never known a JW doctor, dentist, etc. Most still go into the trades (building trades are acceptable in JW land) but of course--they need workers to keep building their real estate empire!

The nerve of these people!

cybs

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The GB: evil manipulators or misguided fools

by New Worldly Translation in

i've been pondering this question for a while now and i haven't come to a conclusion yet.

on the one hand there is evidence of psychological manipulation in their publications.

they discourage questioning of their authority or even their fallability and try to whitewash past mistakes.

cyber-sista

There's no question that they're in a large measure sincerely delusional; a lifetime of Bethel insularity and the incessant reinforcement they offer each other around the table has done the trick. Also, the worshipful adulation and fawning lavished on them by their drones in the rank and file has made them supremely arrogant. It seems they operate on the premise that what's good for the organization is ultimately good for its individual members.

Well said Room 215. I think these men are very separated from reality and especially don't have a clue about normal family relations, since many, if not all of them, don't have children. If they did then maybe they would understand the pain they cause with their cruel rules that separate parents from their children. I think their vision is very narrow and judgemental. I think they are prejudice and promote a lot of hatred in their teachings. I think they are control freaks too. That's my 2 cents, cybs